Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 09:15:58 -0700
Reply-To: Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA>
Subject: Re: Sliding door question
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No, won’t fit without an extreme amount of mods.
Alistair
> On Jun 6, 2018, at 9:11 AM, Pat <sesrating@AOL.COM> wrote:
>
> Will a late model door fit on a 1982? My son buggered up my door when someone parked in a low car to his right where the spot was always empty and he entered from the left and turned like he always did. I would ether replace my door than try to have this one fixed. I know where there is or was a late model door and it is even the same or close enough color.
>
> Thanks
>
> Pat
> In SC near charlotte NC
> 86 Subi Aventurewagen weekender (possibly for sale soon)
> 82 Westy Last off the air cooled
> 69 Baja bug
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 10:03 AM, Patrick Seurynck <climb12@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>
>> Eric,
>> I used some of that special tape, PTFE, on my sliding door and it works
>> great! 84 Westy.
>> The surface has to be perfectly clean and the tape has to be a precision
>> fit with no loose ends or tabs that can catch.
>> It reduced friction and quieted the sliders some as well.
>> Patrick
>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 4:56 PM Eric Caron <eric.caron@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> OK parts ordered,
>>>
>>> Wish me luck, I went with the new hinge, the door stop, and the
>>> bearing kit
>>>
>>>
>>> I’ll do the work with a friend who recently removed and returned his 78
>>> bus slider. So it is hopefully similar.
>>>
>>> Any tips are appreciated.
>>>
>>> I will want to clean up the track under the outer shield as I can feel
>>> some flaking paint.
>>>
>>> Any tips on that are appreciated.
>>>
>>> I’m planning to clean well and sand then prime and paint that hidden area
>>> with rattle can paint. So any tips on primer and paint are appreciated.
>>> It isn’t very rusty in there but the paint is starting to flake to my touch
>>> on the track.
>>>
>>> I also have some special tape I purchased for the track from a related
>>> thread several years ago. Anyone have any thoughts on that tape and how to
>>> use it correctly and where?
>>>
>>> Thanks for everyone’s advice and suggestions.
>>>
>>> Eric Caron 85 GL Auto
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 3, 2018, at 17:24, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> It would most likely be best to get the complete hinge assembly, part
>>> 251843336B.
>>> You probably also need the stop, 251843876.
>>> This is a 2 person job and preferably one of them with practice. Both the
>>> hinge and striker bolt on the van get adjusted.
>>>
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Eric Caron
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 4:28 PM
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> Subject: Re: Sliding door question
>>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> I was able to look at other vanagon door hinges and mine is not
>>> working like others. My spring can move back and forth. the others are
>>> held in place. Mine seems out of position.
>>>
>>> those looking at it wiht me suggested removing it and seeing about
>>> getting the spring back in place.
>>>
>>> I don’t think my skills are up to this at least not in a timely fashion.
>>>
>>> Myu plan is to order the hinge as Stuart recommended, and while the door
>>> is partly off I might as well replace any replaceable parts as they are
>>> likely well worn.
>>>
>>> So, what parts can I replace? So far it sounds like the hinge and the
>>> bushing set.
>>>
>>> I will also clean the track under the cover and probably spray that with
>>> some paint to preserve.
>>>
>>> What else can I do to get the best life and health out of the sliding door?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Eric Caron
>>> 85 GL Auto
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 2, 2018, at 16:25, Eric Caron <eric.caron@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Jim and others,
>>>
>>> It is well lubed and very clean.
>>>
>>> Still I get no pop when opening
>>> I get a reasonable resistence when closing.
>>>
>>> I’ll look at some busses tomorrow to compare mine.
>>>
>>> If my spring is broken I’m good with getting the new one or if Jim has a
>>> good one for a 85 I would be happy with that. I wanted to see if Jim had a
>>> original battery holder in his stock anyway!
>>>
>>> Eric Caron
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 2, 2018, at 13:27, Jim. Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Replace I guess. I have later model door parts aplenty, probably the
>>> earlier ones are gone. Take off that cover (two screws, bump straight up
>>> from below) and take a look and make sure that what you have is in place
>>> and lubed. When you push it it at the back, with the flat of your hand on
>>> the rear of the door, it should not flop or collapse but should resist your
>>> push, and you should have to smack it good to push it home. Conversely,
>>> when you release the lever, it should smartly push out on its own.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 11:03 AM Eric Caron <eric.caron@icloud.com <mailto:
>>> eric.caron@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> This is great info.
>>>
>>> I think my problem is in the back, but I am not sure how to confirm this.
>>> The spring on the door side of the rear connector seems loose and turns
>>> easily even as the door is in open and close position. I can’t imagine it
>>> is helping in any way.
>>>
>>> Any tips on testing and ways to improve?
>>>
>>> The rest of my door set up seems great. It runs quiet and smooth.
>>>
>>> Tips for spring fix?
>>>
>>> Eric Caron
>>> 85 GL auto
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 1, 2018, at 17:26, Jim. Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM <mailto:
>>> jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Regarding "springing out" upon opening, you've got a wound spring in the
>>> back that jacks a steel arm out when the back is released, which carries
>>> the back of the door out away from the body on both early and late models.
>>> If it doesn't spring out readily, you have to do more work yourself to get
>>> the back free. More tugging. Yes, the "long handle" early doors take more
>>> effort to open, but if the front release and back release work
>>> together--the timing is of course done through adjusting the cable that
>>> connects the two--and the front and back springs and catches are in good
>>> shape, it should pop right open with either the early or late setup.
>>>
>>> If your cable is slack, the front may unlatch but the back release will
>>> take extended effort to free. After more wear, it won't open at all. Time
>>> to take a look at it.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 2:38 PM Jack R <jack007@comcast.net <mailto:
>>> jack007@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What year... my 84 has a different mechanism than the later models, and
>>> is
>>>> harder to open than our friends 90.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com <mailto:
>>> vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>] On Behalf
>>>> Of Steve Williams
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 1, 2018 2:19 PM
>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>>> Subject: Re: Sliding door question
>>>>
>>>> Dan, good advice.
>>>>
>>>> Related: My slider works well, but the handle requires quite a lot of
>>>> force. Is that normal? Is there an adjustment?
>>>>
>>>
>> --
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