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Date:         Wed, 6 Jun 2018 19:15:34 -0400
Reply-To:     Eric Caron <eric.caron@ICLOUD.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Eric Caron <eric.caron@ICLOUD.COM>
Subject:      Re: Sliding door question
Comments: To: Patrick Seurynck <climb12@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <D3D32B67-7D7E-4644-8966-A1BB71270308@gmail.com>
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Thanks,

Sadly, the tape is just in a ziplock and doesn’t seem to have any identifying information. I labeled it as slider door tape when it arrived. I’m sure I ordered from a link provided on the list.

It sounds like the 84 and 85 might be different so I’m a bit uncertain about the use of the tape. I’ll figure this out when the door comes off.

I still don’t even have confirmation from GW on the order so it seems like I may be waiting for a long time.

Eric Caron 85 GL Auto

On Jun 6, 2018, at 18:48, Patrick Seurynck <climb12@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes, Eric, It is an ’84 Westfalia. I used it on the entire contact face on both the upper and lower tracks that the door rides on. Behind the removed body panel this upper contact face is approximately 4 to 5 feet long and about 3/8 inch tall. The bottom track is approximately the same measurement. BTW, do you know the type of special that this tape is? I have been clogging this forum with erroneous info. Patrick

> On Jun 6, 2018, at 3:28 PM, Eric Caron <eric.caron@ICLOUD.COM> wrote: > > Hi Patrick, > > Can you tell me what year van you used it on? > > Also, as. much detail about what you cover with the tape? > > Thanks, > > Eric Caron > 85 GL Auto > > > > On Jun 6, 2018, at 15:57, Patrick Seurynck <climb12@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > > To all that are requesting a source for the PTFE tape, I bought it a few > years ago and I gave the leftover to a van friend who will get the name and > measurements for me this afternoon, which I will share. Since it has been a > while since I bought it I will not be able to come up with a source. My > apologies. > Patrick > > On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 10:16 AM Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote: > >> No, won’t fit without an extreme amount of mods. >> >> Alistair >> >> >> >>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 9:11 AM, Pat <sesrating@AOL.COM> wrote: >>> >>> Will a late model door fit on a 1982? My son buggered up my door when >> someone parked in a low car to his right where the spot was always empty >> and he entered from the left and turned like he always did. I would ether >> replace my door than try to have this one fixed. I know where there is or >> was a late model door and it is even the same or close enough color. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Pat >>> In SC near charlotte NC >>> 86 Subi Aventurewagen weekender (possibly for sale soon) >>> 82 Westy Last off the air cooled >>> 69 Baja bug >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 10:03 AM, Patrick Seurynck <climb12@GMAIL.COM> >> wrote: >>>> >>>> Eric, >>>> I used some of that special tape, PTFE, on my sliding door and it works >>>> great! 84 Westy. >>>> The surface has to be perfectly clean and the tape has to be a precision >>>> fit with no loose ends or tabs that can catch. >>>> It reduced friction and quieted the sliders some as well. >>>> Patrick >>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 4:56 PM Eric Caron <eric.caron@icloud.com> >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> OK parts ordered, >>>>> >>>>> Wish me luck, I went with the new hinge, the door stop, and the >>>>> bearing kit >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I’ll do the work with a friend who recently removed and returned his >> 78 >>>>> bus slider. So it is hopefully similar. >>>>> >>>>> Any tips are appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> I will want to clean up the track under the outer shield as I can feel >>>>> some flaking paint. >>>>> >>>>> Any tips on that are appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> I’m planning to clean well and sand then prime and paint that hidden >> area >>>>> with rattle can paint. So any tips on primer and paint are >> appreciated. >>>>> It isn’t very rusty in there but the paint is starting to flake to my >> touch >>>>> on the track. >>>>> >>>>> I also have some special tape I purchased for the track from a related >>>>> thread several years ago. Anyone have any thoughts on that tape and >> how to >>>>> use it correctly and where? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for everyone’s advice and suggestions. >>>>> >>>>> Eric Caron 85 GL Auto >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 3, 2018, at 17:24, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It would most likely be best to get the complete hinge assembly, part >>>>> 251843336B. >>>>> You probably also need the stop, 251843876. >>>>> This is a 2 person job and preferably one of them with practice. Both >> the >>>>> hinge and striker bolt on the van get adjusted. >>>>> >>>>> Dennis >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On >> Behalf >>>>> Of Eric Caron >>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 4:28 PM >>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>>>> Subject: Re: Sliding door question >>>>> >>>>> Hi folks, >>>>> >>>>> I was able to look at other vanagon door hinges and mine is not >>>>> working like others. My spring can move back and forth. the others >> are >>>>> held in place. Mine seems out of position. >>>>> >>>>> those looking at it wiht me suggested removing it and seeing about >>>>> getting the spring back in place. >>>>> >>>>> I don’t think my skills are up to this at least not in a timely >> fashion. >>>>> >>>>> Myu plan is to order the hinge as Stuart recommended, and while the >> door >>>>> is partly off I might as well replace any replaceable parts as they are >>>>> likely well worn. >>>>> >>>>> So, what parts can I replace? So far it sounds like the hinge and the >>>>> bushing set. >>>>> >>>>> I will also clean the track under the cover and probably spray that >> with >>>>> some paint to preserve. >>>>> >>>>> What else can I do to get the best life and health out of the sliding >> door? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Eric Caron >>>>> 85 GL Auto >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 2, 2018, at 16:25, Eric Caron <eric.caron@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Jim and others, >>>>> >>>>> It is well lubed and very clean. >>>>> >>>>> Still I get no pop when opening >>>>> I get a reasonable resistence when closing. >>>>> >>>>> I’ll look at some busses tomorrow to compare mine. >>>>> >>>>> If my spring is broken I’m good with getting the new one or if Jim has >> a >>>>> good one for a 85 I would be happy with that. I wanted to see if Jim >> had a >>>>> original battery holder in his stock anyway! >>>>> >>>>> Eric Caron >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 2, 2018, at 13:27, Jim. Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Replace I guess. I have later model door parts aplenty, probably the >>>>> earlier ones are gone. Take off that cover (two screws, bump straight >> up >>>>> from below) and take a look and make sure that what you have is in >> place >>>>> and lubed. When you push it it at the back, with the flat of your hand >> on >>>>> the rear of the door, it should not flop or collapse but should resist >> your >>>>> push, and you should have to smack it good to push it home. Conversely, >>>>> when you release the lever, it should smartly push out on its own. >>>>> >>>>> Jim >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 11:03 AM Eric Caron <eric.caron@icloud.com >> <mailto: >>>>> eric.caron@icloud.com>> wrote: >>>>> This is great info. >>>>> >>>>> I think my problem is in the back, but I am not sure how to confirm >> this. >>>>> The spring on the door side of the rear connector seems loose and turns >>>>> easily even as the door is in open and close position. I can’t >> imagine it >>>>> is helping in any way. >>>>> >>>>> Any tips on testing and ways to improve? >>>>> >>>>> The rest of my door set up seems great. It runs quiet and smooth. >>>>> >>>>> Tips for spring fix? >>>>> >>>>> Eric Caron >>>>> 85 GL auto >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 1, 2018, at 17:26, Jim. Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM <mailto: >>>>> jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Regarding "springing out" upon opening, you've got a wound spring in >> the >>>>> back that jacks a steel arm out when the back is released, which >> carries >>>>> the back of the door out away from the body on both early and late >> models. >>>>> If it doesn't spring out readily, you have to do more work yourself to >> get >>>>> the back free. More tugging. Yes, the "long handle" early doors take >> more >>>>> effort to open, but if the front release and back release work >>>>> together--the timing is of course done through adjusting the cable that >>>>> connects the two--and the front and back springs and catches are in >> good >>>>> shape, it should pop right open with either the early or late setup. >>>>> >>>>> If your cable is slack, the front may unlatch but the back release will >>>>> take extended effort to free. After more wear, it won't open at all. >> Time >>>>> to take a look at it. >>>>> >>>>> Jim >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 2:38 PM Jack R <jack007@comcast.net <mailto: >>>>> jack007@comcast.net>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> What year... my 84 has a different mechanism than the later models, >> and >>>>> is >>>>>> harder to open than our friends 90. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com <mailto: >>>>> vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>] On Behalf >>>>>> Of Steve Williams >>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 1, 2018 2:19 PM >>>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> >>>>>> Subject: Re: Sliding door question >>>>>> >>>>>> Dan, good advice. >>>>>> >>>>>> Related: My slider works well, but the handle requires quite a lot of >>>>>> force. Is that normal? Is there an adjustment? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >> > -- > Sent from Gmail Mobile >


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