Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 09:31:21 -0400
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From: "kenneth wilford (Van-Again)" <kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: Anyone seen Gowesty's Digifiant replacement?
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Dennis and list,
Everything has bugs. Just look at the Subaru forums if you doubt this. I
remember when people were first talking about doing the Subaru conversions
and that they were going to be the magic bullet to trouble free Vanagon
ownership. Yes there were benefits of going that way and the more modern
fuel injection is a major plus. But there are also new issues that the
community deals with on a daily basis. Now that it has been around for
over 10 years, they have probably mapped out "the usual suspects" like we
do in the VW Waterboxer world, but that took time. This new system will
have quirks and issues I am sure. And it will take time for folks to
figure out the weak spots and recognise them when they crop up. So go into
this with the understanding that spending $3000 isn't going to give you a
magic carpet that will never leave you on the side of the road. Hopefully
it will be more reliable but that remains to be seen.
Ken
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 1:13 AM Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> As a person who owned a Vanagon from new the original Digifant is buggy at
> best. As a person frequently servicing these the rebuilt parts are not
> consistent, the O2 sensor selection and installed location is bad, and the
> system does not adapt to changing conditions including engine wear,
> altitude, or fuel quality. The price of this kit is high but many
> aftermarket fuel injection kits for muscle or classic cars are up there.
> The fact that they now have the CARB approval is a real benefit for anyone
> living in any of the states that now follow the CARB including New York.
> The one gripe I do have with this kit is the need to re-use the fuel
> injectors along with some other parts.
>
> This cost could make a great down payment on an engine conversion. As Fun
> Bus has just completed another Florida run turning 338K I know the day will
> come that I have to do something. I am struggling yet again with another
> failed idle speed controller and it does not run quite right just after
> startup. Weighing options.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> Of kenneth wilford (Van-Again)
> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 5:17 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Anyone seen Gowesty's Digifiant replacement?
>
> Jim,
>
> Not really sure why this was needed. I can supply rebuilt ECU, rebuilt
> idle unit, new wiring harness, new distributor, etc. for way less than
> this. The digifant system is actually very reliable. Instead, lets create
> a new system out of parts, and use you as our test subjects... You can bet
> that it will have it's own issues that folks will start a new forum section
> just to talk about.
>
> I personally think they came up with this because they were having
> failures with their high compression engines due to the fact that the
> digifant system doesn't have a knock sensor. If you have one of their high
> compression engines, this could be a great way to go, but if you are going
> to spend that much money, why not do a Subaru or some other conversion?
>
> Having OBD II on a waterboxer would be cool, but is it worth $3k?
>
> Just my opinion,
> Ken
>
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 5:06 PM Jim. Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm happy with my diesel westy, but I might have kept my Carat if I
> > had
> > this:
> >
> > <
> >
> > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.g
> > owesty.com%2Fproduct%2Felectrical%2F23981%2Fgowesty-engine-management-
> > system%3Fv&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cac2e9af99c104d7738ff08d5ec2ab1a2%7C84df9e
> > 7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636674590467257481&sdata=d0pDl8UI
> > iCdrS6NJcdPVoJHVDpN4TyKKIIrFnFKdiBk%3D&reserved=0=
> > >
> >
> > Ultra-pricey but probably a great idea for people with good
> > waterboxers whose Digifant electronics are going bad.
> >
> > Jim
> >
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Ken Wilford
> John 3:16
>
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Thanks,
Ken Wilford
John 3:16
www.vanagain.com
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