Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 20:58:37 -0700
Reply-To: Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: body panel seams anatomy and rust mitigation
In-Reply-To: <CABToOYKLP5qx35zzkv0Nm0XGrBjVdDi3VX25-GGhDniPqzM8bg@mail.gmail.com>
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Dear Rusty
Get your self a 5 gallon bucket of pure Linseed oil and a garden sprayer
that you can pressurize — drill access holes in body the size of nozzle
plus a few mil - with the metal nice and warm - like a hot sunny day in
August- reach into van with wand and spray the inside surfaces until coated
— it will soak in and mitigate -
Repeat yearly —
You can go to auto store and get plugs for the holes you have created -
Also drill small drain holes underside where no one can see - where there
is a possibility of water gathering inside -
There will be a smell like paint used to smell like - for a day or two -
Regards
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 5:54 PM Edward Maglott <emaglott3@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the reply, and link to the video of Vanagons being constructed!
> I have seen some of those factory vids before but not that one. I was
> tempted to not even touch the seam rust for fear of it being just the tip
> of an iceberg but finally gave in to my curiosity and wanting to be able to
> know the situation for prospective buyers. I am seeing a lot of different
> kinds of seam sealer out there from 3M. any guidance on what kind is best
> for these vanagon seams?
> Edward
>
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 11:50 AM <stuartmacm@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Those panels have 1/2" flanges on those joining edges that were clamped
> in
> > jigs and spot welded. Seam sealer kept water out for years, but it
> cracks,
> > and moisture can penetrate from the inside too. It's an obsolete
> > manufacturing method, and all you can do is clean out the cracks and kill
> > the rust will rust killer and rust preventive primer. Then fill with a
> > professional seam sealer like 3-M's and paint.
> >
> > Many Vanagon body sections and panels were hand assembled into jigs and
> > then machine welded into larger assemblies. Here is a fun video:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rceTqDtGgz8
> >
> > Stuart
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> On Behalf Of
> > Edward Maglott
> > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 6:38 AM
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: body panel seams anatomy and rust mitigation
> >
> > I'm getting der gulden luvwagen ready to sell and looking at what seams
> > (sic) to be minor seam rust on the drivers side. I decided to poke at it
> > to have a better idea how bad or minor it is for prospective buyers. I
> did
> > some dremel grinding on the worst area and didn't find any rust
> penetration
> > of the metal.
> >
> > It seemed like the vertical panels have a 90 degree bent section on each
> > that are parallel to each other and extend deeper into the van than I
> > expected, and then the seam filler in the gap and paint over that.
> probing
> > back into that gap with very thin metal it felt like that slot was
> 1/2-3/4"
> > deep which was more than I expected. How are the body panels actually
> > connected in there? Any advice on how to stabilize the seam area short of
> > full the on interior removal approach?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Edward
> >
> >
>
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