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Date:         Sun, 28 Oct 2018 20:53:27 -0400
Reply-To:     Edward Maglott <emaglott3@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Edward Maglott <emaglott3@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: body panel seams anatomy and rust mitigation
Comments: To: Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <000301d46a1e$f0186240$d04926c0$@gmail.com>
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Thanks for the reply, and link to the video of Vanagons being constructed! I have seen some of those factory vids before but not that one. I was tempted to not even touch the seam rust for fear of it being just the tip of an iceberg but finally gave in to my curiosity and wanting to be able to know the situation for prospective buyers. I am seeing a lot of different kinds of seam sealer out there from 3M. any guidance on what kind is best for these vanagon seams? Edward

On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 11:50 AM <stuartmacm@gmail.com> wrote:

> Those panels have 1/2" flanges on those joining edges that were clamped in > jigs and spot welded. Seam sealer kept water out for years, but it cracks, > and moisture can penetrate from the inside too. It's an obsolete > manufacturing method, and all you can do is clean out the cracks and kill > the rust will rust killer and rust preventive primer. Then fill with a > professional seam sealer like 3-M's and paint. > > Many Vanagon body sections and panels were hand assembled into jigs and > then machine welded into larger assemblies. Here is a fun video: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rceTqDtGgz8 > > Stuart > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> On Behalf Of > Edward Maglott > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 6:38 AM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: body panel seams anatomy and rust mitigation > > I'm getting der gulden luvwagen ready to sell and looking at what seams > (sic) to be minor seam rust on the drivers side. I decided to poke at it > to have a better idea how bad or minor it is for prospective buyers. I did > some dremel grinding on the worst area and didn't find any rust penetration > of the metal. > > It seemed like the vertical panels have a 90 degree bent section on each > that are parallel to each other and extend deeper into the van than I > expected, and then the seam filler in the gap and paint over that. probing > back into that gap with very thin metal it felt like that slot was 1/2-3/4" > deep which was more than I expected. How are the body panels actually > connected in there? Any advice on how to stabilize the seam area short of > full the on interior removal approach? > > Thanks, > Edward > >


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