Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 21:51:52 -0700
Reply-To: Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: body panel seams anatomy and rust mitigation
In-Reply-To: <B5272266-B8B1-4A75-89D2-0811E2CEF60F@gmail.com>
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Drills should be registered and only those licenced to drill should be
allowed to operate
:)
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 9:46 PM Stacy Schneider <vwcrewman@gmail.com> wrote:
> After drilling those holes be sure to paint the raw metal where you
> drilled the hole.
> I just sold a van that had been Zeibarted, it did a great job except it
> was rusty around the areas that they drilled into.
> The drilled one in the wheel arch near the front seat belt which
> is just open to the front wheel (oops)
>
> Stacy
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 28, 2018, at 8:58 PM, Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Rusty
> >
> > Get your self a 5 gallon bucket of pure Linseed oil and a garden sprayer
> > that you can pressurize — drill access holes in body the size of nozzle
> > plus a few mil - with the metal nice and warm - like a hot sunny day in
> > August- reach into van with wand and spray the inside surfaces until
> coated
> > — it will soak in and mitigate -
> > Repeat yearly —
> > You can go to auto store and get plugs for the holes you have created -
> > Also drill small drain holes underside where no one can see - where there
> > is a possibility of water gathering inside -
> > There will be a smell like paint used to smell like - for a day or two -
> > Regards
> >
> >> On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 5:54 PM Edward Maglott <emaglott3@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks for the reply, and link to the video of Vanagons being
> constructed!
> >> I have seen some of those factory vids before but not that one. I was
> >> tempted to not even touch the seam rust for fear of it being just the
> tip
> >> of an iceberg but finally gave in to my curiosity and wanting to be
> able to
> >> know the situation for prospective buyers. I am seeing a lot of
> different
> >> kinds of seam sealer out there from 3M. any guidance on what kind is
> best
> >> for these vanagon seams?
> >> Edward
> >>
> >>>> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 11:50 AM <stuartmacm@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Those panels have 1/2" flanges on those joining edges that were clamped
> >> in
> >>> jigs and spot welded. Seam sealer kept water out for years, but it
> >> cracks,
> >>> and moisture can penetrate from the inside too. It's an obsolete
> >>> manufacturing method, and all you can do is clean out the cracks and
> kill
> >>> the rust will rust killer and rust preventive primer. Then fill with a
> >>> professional seam sealer like 3-M's and paint.
> >>>
> >>> Many Vanagon body sections and panels were hand assembled into jigs and
> >>> then machine welded into larger assemblies. Here is a fun video:
> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rceTqDtGgz8
> >>>
> >>> Stuart
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> On Behalf Of
> >>> Edward Maglott
> >>> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 6:38 AM
> >>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> >>> Subject: body panel seams anatomy and rust mitigation
> >>>
> >>> I'm getting der gulden luvwagen ready to sell and looking at what seams
> >>> (sic) to be minor seam rust on the drivers side. I decided to poke at
> it
> >>> to have a better idea how bad or minor it is for prospective buyers. I
> >> did
> >>> some dremel grinding on the worst area and didn't find any rust
> >> penetration
> >>> of the metal.
> >>>
> >>> It seemed like the vertical panels have a 90 degree bent section on
> each
> >>> that are parallel to each other and extend deeper into the van than I
> >>> expected, and then the seam filler in the gap and paint over that.
> >> probing
> >>> back into that gap with very thin metal it felt like that slot was
> >> 1/2-3/4"
> >>> deep which was more than I expected. How are the body panels actually
> >>> connected in there? Any advice on how to stabilize the seam area short
> of
> >>> full the on interior removal approach?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Edward
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