Date:         Wed, 16 Jan 2019 17:56:25 -0500
Reply-To:     Ned Savoie <ned@HARBOURLIGHT.COM>
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From:         Ned Savoie <ned@HARBOURLIGHT.COM>
Subject:      Re: West Propane tanks & east coast tunnels
Comments: To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
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I got stopped in my 78 Westy at the Lincoln Tunnel. I didn't have the stove
or a propane tank, but the lady didn't care. When I told her I didn't even
have a stove she said "Calm down, Sir!" and called the cop on duty over.
This was 2 weeks before 9/11. He let me go, but I wouldn't put myself
through that now.

Ned

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On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 9:07 PM Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> The tank itself does not change the restrictions for tunnels, some
> bridges, parts of cities, and many ferries. Propane has an extremely wide
> range of flammability along with a very low ignition temperature. Unlike
> gasoline it does not stay in liquid form and when released the vapor cloud
> is instantly ignitable. Regardless of the container type there will be a
> relief valve of some sort so in the event of a fire, as the tank is heated
> it will vent and really add more fuel to the fire. In the event of an
> accident where the tank or lines get damaged you will an uncontrollable
> vaporized fuel source which in a closed space will make for some serious
> concern. A number of years ago I had the westy tank spring a pinhole leak
> while getting filled. While no flames erupted the fire department responded
> with 5 trucks looking to foam it down and the Flying J was shut down.
> Propane is serious stuff if it gets out of control.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> From: ddbjorkman@verizon.net [mailto:ddbjorkman@verizon.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 9:51 AM
> To: d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM; vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: West Propane tanks & east coast tunnels
>
> Interesting.  I avoided those tunnels a long time ago due to the propane
> tank,  I brought it up to the list and was told, as I remember, that the
> Westy tank is not like one's grille tank.  I believe it is ASME certified
> and therefore not subject to the restrictions. ??
> Anyone want to chime in on this?
>
> Dave B.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM<mailto:
> d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>>
> To: vanagon <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM<mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>>
> Sent: Mon, Jan 14, 2019 7:49 pm
> Subject: Re: West Propane tanks & east coast tunnels
> That is a really bad idea. I've been stopped at the Baltimore Harbor
> Tunnel and the Lincoln Tunnel. As per current signage the "Greater than 10
> pounds" is no longer there so it is all propane. For the Chesapeake Bay
> Bridge and Tunnel the propane needs to be shut off. Last time I traveled
> with the motorhome the toll collector had me stop and a trooper was
> summoned to ensure it was in fact turned off. There is also a detour on the
> NY side of the George Washington Bridge. The 695 around Baltimore takes you
> a bit out of the way but it is not that bad.
>
> Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com<mailto:
> vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>] On Behalf Of kenneth wilford
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 7:01 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM<mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Subject: Re: West Propane tanks & east coast tunnels
>
> Play dumb and you will never be stopped or questioned.
>
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019, 6:48 PM Dave Christensen <dave@davechristensen.org
> <mailto:dave@davechristensen.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Howdy all
> >
> > Planning an XC trip in the next year back to the northeast, where I
> > grew up, and wanted to know the experiences people had with the
> > Baltimore Harbour tunnel on 95 along with the Port Authority and TBTA
> > tunnels through Manhattan.
> >
> > Should I just plan on taking 695 around Baltimore? If that’s the case
> > it will probably be the Chesapeake BBT and skip DC.  And for NYC, just
> > do the Goethals and Verizano to Long Island?  Probably will take the
> > ferry off the island to CT as I hated the east river crossings 25
> > years ago, and hate them more now.
> >
> > Thanks for the advice.
> >
> > Cheers/Dave
> > 83 1.6 TD Westy
> >
> > Sent while mobile.
>