Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2019 20:08:03 -0700
Reply-To: Ben T <syncro@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Ben T <syncro@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Wafers for locks
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The fuel caps which can be rekeyed to your ignition key is NLA in North America. However, you can still get them in South Africa. I ordered dual fillers from SA and they all came with this style cap.
BenT
> On Apr 7, 2019, at 6:29 PM, Eric Caron <eric.caron@icloud.com> wrote:
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> HI all,
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> This was discussed fully in past threads.
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> Earlier vanagons like my 85 don’t have a matching key for the gas cap. Later ones I vaguly think 87 on often had one that would work with the ignition key.
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> Then, many people will say, but my 84 or early Vanagon gas cap works with my ignition key. That is likely true but it is because the gas cap is likely to, at this point open with just about any key. It isn’t because it was designed that way.
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> So, those later vans with the one key option have the extra convenience.
>
> Eric
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>> On Apr 7, 2019, at 9:19 PM, David McNeely <davmcneely40@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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>> Ben, this is what Steve said. Notice that he said that "... most vanagon
>> gas caps are not designed to use the main key.... ." That is why I
>> responded as I did. the sentence is pretty clear. You can read it for
>> yourself.
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>> *Steve via
>> <https://support.google.com/mail/answer/1311182?hl=en> gerry.vanagon.com
>> <http://gerry.vanagon.com> *
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>> 8:20 AM (9 hours ago)
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>> to vanagon
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>> There are 4 depths of cut, therefor 4 different wafers. The ignition may
>> or may not use the same wafers as the door, depending on if the lock is
>> original or not. I generally scrounge through old wafers for gas caps,
>> since I seldom rekey them. I'd just leave out any that you can't shuffle.
>> Note that most vanagon gas caps are not designed to use the main key, but
>> the lock is so sloppy they can be made to work. I do have a limited supply
>> of new wafers.
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>>> On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 12:46 PM Ben T <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> David,
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>>> Steve is talking about the inside parts of each lock. Sure the original
>>> configuration was all the locks, except the glove box and single-seat rear
>>> pedestals, could be opened by the same key. However, that does not mean the
>>> insides of the locks are interchangeable. That is what Steve is referring
>>> to.
>>>
>>> The lock cylinders themselves are shaped to the type of lock. Steve is
>>> saying it’s possible that even the smaller parts (lock pins or wafers) may
>>> also differ.
>>>
>>>
>>> BenT
>>>
>>>> On Apr 7, 2019, at 10:16 AM, David McNeely <davmcneely40@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
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>>>> According to the owner's manual for my 1991 Volkswagen Vanagon GL
>>>> Campmobile, the ignition key fits all doors and the gas cap. It does,
>>>> too. The only key that differs is the latch for the glove compartment.
>>> Of
>>>> course, if locks had been changed, that would not be true, but the
>>> vehicle
>>>> was evidently manufactured that way. But, I don't mean to be disputing
>>> an
>>>> expert, just stating what works for my vehicle, and what the owner's book
>>>> states.
>>>
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