Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 06:56:54 -0700
Reply-To: David McNeely <davmcneely40@GMAIL.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: David McNeely <davmcneely40@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: For Ben T - Where has everyone gone?
In-Reply-To: <00a1a78f-3241-4355-843e-3f7c03bdf986@Jim-Felders-iPhone-2>
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All, I was a new 1991 Volkswagen Vanagon GL Campmobile owner in 2008.
Well, I was new, the camper was 17-18 years old. I still have it. Both of
us are considerably older. My wife Bonnie and I have since acquiring the
camper, camped in it in every state except Alaska, Florida, and Hawaii. I
asked a lot of questions, and posed a few comments regarding Vanagons.
Both my questions and my comments irritated some long time Vanagon
fanatics, but most list members were considerate and helpful. The list has
saved my a__ on multiple occasions.
I don't participate in Facebook, for practical, intellectual, AND ETHICAL
reasons. You can figure those out if you want to. It sounds like some of
those who have commented in this thread, including at least one list
administrator, are giving the list its final rites. I hope that is not
true. It has been and is the one best place to get (and give, though my
personal expertise is still woefully lacking) help, sometimes the only
place. Certainly, reliable shops are scarce, and VW dealers are absolutely
useless. The camaraderie of the list has also been wonderful.
I check for list posts every day, and I have occasionally been known to
post something (always legitimate though) just to perk up the list.
Don't let it fade away.
David McNeely (my real name), now of Spokane, WA, formerly of Edmond, OK
On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 5:53 AM Jim. Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Some of us are still here, waiting patiently for the next message, aware
> of the limitations of facebook but enjoying it, too, inasmuch as that is
> possible. A mere snack compared to the heartier fare of the list of yore.
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> Best information resource that may have ever existed for any purpose, all
> things considered.
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> Jim in Alabama sitting outside my Westy in the morning sun with grandson
> inside snoring away, with the REAL list to thank for it, mostly.
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> > On Jun 11, 2019 at 7:42 AM, <Eric Caron (mailto:eric.caron@icloud.com)>
> wrote:
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> > Hi all,
> > Hey Quality is more important to me then quanta. and this list provides
> quality information and help. Facebook is 90% unless to me.
> > In 2013 when I got my vanagon the deciding factor why I got it after
> being without one for over 10 years is that this list was here to support
> me.
> >
> > I look at the Facebook groups now and then and it is mostly social and
> not helpful. And the social stuff doesn’t work for me. Constantly people
> making what they think are funny remarks on a photo.
> >
> > Ugh,
> >
> > Thank goodness for this list.
> >
> > And keep the archives alive!
> >
> > Eric Caron
> > 85 GL Auto
> >
> >
> > > On Jun 11, 2019, at 8:36 AM, Pete Owsianowski <
> pnoceanwesty@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have enjoyed 17 years of following this list! Lots of great info
> and it’s been cool to get to know people through their bus experiences.
> > >
> > > Pete O
> > > 1987 Westy “JoesVan”
> > >
> > >> On Jun 10, 2019, at 23:36, Jim Arnott <jrasite@eoni.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> There are currently 490 subscribers on the gerry.vanagon.com list.
> > >>
> > >> I suspect that your hypothesis is correct. I admin a few other lists
> and where there used to be ten to a hundred posts daily, there’s now one or
> two a week. All gone to FB no doubt as it’s more ‘immediate.’ WetWesties
> for example, 2008 saw an avg of 299.8 messages/month. 2018, the avg is
> 32.5/mo.
> > >>
> > >> I too miss the chatter. I also miss that chatter being archived.
> > >>
> > >> For historical purposes, the following is the first post to the
> Vanagon list. (There was a vanagon-L list that preceded it, but those
> archives are lost to the sands of time as I’m sure this list’s archives
> will be eventually.)
> > >>
> > >> We’ve had a good run.
> > >>
> > >> Jim
> > >>
> > >> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >>
> > >> Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 15:01:54 -0600 (CST)
> > >> Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@vanagon.com>
> > >> From: Gerald Skerbitz <gsker@lenti>
> > >> Subject: New listprocessor
> > >>
> > >> This is a rather trepid announcement of my installation of the
> > >> listprocessor software.
> > >>
> > >> The list is still called vanagon@lenti.med.umn.edu, but you can
> send
> > >> help,subscribe,unsubscribe,set vanagon digest messages to
> > >> listserv@lenti.med.umn.edu
> > >>
> > >> As soon as I get a welcome message together, I'll post it to the
> list
> > >> so you can forward it to your friends.
> > >>
> > >> If there are any problems, I'll probably see them, but please send
> mail
> > >> to me as gsker@lenti.med.umn.edu if you see them first or you need
> some
> > >> help with something.
> > >>
> > >> Also, if you can spare a few seconds to quickly respond to this note
> so I
> > >> know it got out there somewhere, that'd be nice (I can do that while
> the
> > >> list is still small. <smile>)
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Gerry
> > >> Gerald Skerbitz <gsker@lenti.med.umn.edu> U of MN
> Med.School.Admin 6-5379
> > >> 1984 VW Vanagon Waterboxer 1915
> > >>
> > >>> On Jun 10, 2019, at 3:32 PM, Anthony Egeln <regnsuzanne@YAHOO.COM>
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> I figured that this was best sent to a moderator, hence Ben T in
> subject line.
> > >>> The Vanagon list seems to have shrunk to just one or two posts a
> day, and I'm wondering where everyone has gone. I'm thinking they have all
> gone to a FaceBook page, but not sure which one.
> > >>> I don't do FaceBook, but I checked my wife's account and there is
> several Vanagon groups; one with 11,000 members! Is that it?
> > >>> There was even a small Vanagon diesel group, and what really
> surprised me was a Central Florida Vanagon group with a couple of hundred
> members. I didn't know that there was that many Vanagons here in Florida.
> > >>> I'd love to know where everyone has gone because I miss the Vanagon
> chatter. Especially as I am searching for a van again now.
> > >>> Thanks, Anthony (NE FL)
> >
>
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