Date:         Sat, 27 Jul 2019 07:47:23 -0700
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From:         vw_van_fan_Mark <madvws@COX.NET>
Subject:      Re: First ride of shame, fuel issue
Comments: To: Eric Caron <ericcaron96@COMCAST.NET>
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Put your fingers on the 2 relays while someone turns the key on and off
a few times. The relays should BOTH click each time the key is turned
on. The FP relay should click again a moment later.

If BOTH relays are clicking then it could be the fuel pump, the wiring
from relay to pump, or pump ground wire which goes the the chassis near
the pump.

If only the ECU relay is clicking then the ECU may not be getting power.
Measure the voltage on the red wire stud inside the engine compartment
wiring box. It should be 12 volts, key of and stay 12 volts when key is
on and above 10 while cranking.

If neither relay clicks then ignition switch or wiring from ignition
switch to ignition coil. Check voltage on black wires at the coil with
key and and then while cranking. Should be 12 volts, dropping some while
cranking.

Mark


Eric Caron wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Quick version.
>
> Van had loss of power climbing a steep hill in second gear.  Engined to me seemed louder then usual but mabe my imagination.
>
> Heidi, driver, reported loss of power and got us into a pull off and the van died.  No restart, no fluids on ground.  All levels normal.
>
> No restart.  Heidi announced to me, before I could make a conclusion, the fuel pump is not working.
>
> I had her turn on the key and the buzzer sounded but no fuel pump. sound.
>
> We were moving me out of my house so the van was packed with stuff. My spare pump was at the bottom of the mess.
>
> Art came to help with a spare pump but his multi meeter indicated no power to the pump.  The relay is buried under tons of junk.
>
> I decide to get a tow home.
>
> Van is in the driveway.
>
> Is there a way to easily test our relay theory?
>
> Not sure I can get a new relay until Monday, or more correctly order one by Monday.
>
> Are there better sources of good relays for this area?  I’m told the two in the box are the same and the other is for the ECU.  So, I’ll also get a spare.
>
>
>
> Tips, suggestions and thoughts about the issue appreciated.
>
> Eric Caron
> 85 GL Auto
>