Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 20:09:48 -0400
Reply-To: Thomas Casal <thomas.casal@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Thomas Casal <thomas.casal@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: alignment & tires
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Thanks Dennis, that makes me feel better. They spent almost two hours
dialing it in so I figured it was fair and it’s jersey prices. Getting
anyone to touch these things is a nightmare the dealership didn’t want to
look at it. I’m glad they suck anyway, I was desperate though. My last
tires wore terribly, a Vanagon mechanic a few years back was supposed to
align the van and I don’t think he did. My tires wore on the outside bad,
the camber was off 2 degrees in the front.
Sorry I didn’t give u all the specs on suspension had a full rebuild,
polyurethane all around, front too back, new ball joints, t3 anti sway bar,
Audi discs front and back 86 spindles Gowesty no lift springs bilsteins
hd. Haven’t had any rubbing issues luckily.
On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 6:05 PM Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> $200 for a wheel alignment? Hopefully that was a very good job and that
> the suspension in really good condition to warrant it. Has the front
> suspension been serviced including the radius rod mounts?
> For the rear settings I would be impressed if the bushings could actually
> be moved and adjusted. That setting seems close to readings from the
> factory adjustment with years of sag in the rear bushings. A slight
> negative camber is called for though. I usually set for .5 to 1.
>
> Tire inflation is not an issue since all were set the same anyway. While
> Most of us seem to think that 39 front and 48 rear is the correct
> pressures, and seat of the pants seem to confirm that the size difference
> changes what is needed. If you get the load inflation chart for that tire
> which is an extra load rated design you'll find that even 32 psi is more
> than adequate to carry the actual load.
>
> While I am a big fan of that tire and use it on Syncros it is a bit large
> for 2WD and some vans I have seen rubbing issues up front. At just over 27"
> it changes gearing and brake loading considerably. Front brakes on an 84
> are not up to the task. Generally changing tire size by 3% is considered
> safe. With this tire you are pushing 6%. For the 85 and earlier vans I
> usually suggest 215/60-16XL or 225/60-16 as the upper limit even with a
> brake upgrade. Front brake upgrades will likely require changing the front
> spindles.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> On Behalf Of
> Thomas Casal
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 4:52 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: alignment & tires
>
> Greetings volks,
>
> I have a new set of nokian rotiva at tires 215 65r16, 84 westfalia had
> them installed at etd tires which i should have my head examined right
> there.
> Anyway I found a Euro tire shop to do an official alignment but I forgot
> to check my tire pressure from etd discount garbage and they are all at
> 36psi looking at the list it's looking like pressure should have been
> closer to 39psi front and 48psi rear. Now I already paid 200$ for an
> alignment is changing my tire pressure going to ruin the alignment?
> Clearly it will effect how my tires wear a bit but will it be enough to
> warrant another alignment? Also the rears were set at -1.39 camber left
> and right curious as to why they would have done that? thanks for your
> responses. peace tom
>
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