Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2019 18:10:24 -0300
Reply-To: Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@NBNET.NB.CA>
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From: Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@NBNET.NB.CA>
Subject: Re: Coolant hose: T-stat to Coolant Distributor Tower
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Gabriel:
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> On 19-Sep-2019, at 13:54, Gabriel Hourtouat <ghourtouat@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> David (or anyone that may have experience with this brand or another),
>
> Does this look good to you? (see link below)
> Or, is it overkill?
>
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>
> In case the link doesn't work, it is a combo of Knipex 8551250A and 8701250.
>
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>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 11:30 PM Gabriel Hourtouat <ghourtouat@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> David,
>> Thanks for the valued response!
>> Cheers,
>> g
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 2:28 PM David Beierl <dbeierl@attglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 1:12 PM Gabriel Hourtouat <ghourtouat@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Found a coolant leak in the hose that connects the T-stat to the
>>>> Distributor Tower.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.gowesty.com/product/hoses/18816/coolant-hose-thermostat-housing-to-distribution-tower-?v=
>>>>
>>>> Looks like it might be a bit tricky to make the connection to the
>>>> distributor tower. Is that the case? Any tips?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't recall there being any particular difficulty. You'll need a set
>>> of hose clamp pliers intended for flat band spring clamps to work with the
>>> factory clamps. Some people like the cable operated type, but I prefer the
>>> pliers type and have been able to reach everything I've needed to so far.
>>>
>>> Some people also replace the factory clamps with the screw type. This is
>>> a poor idea as the factory ones are self-compensating for rubber shrinkage
>>> etc.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The leak is suspiciously close to where work was done to replace my oil
>>>> leak last month. Did the leak happen because the hose is old and
>>>> couldn't
>>>> handle being bumped and pushed around?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Possibly but much more likely it was simply its time.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am I going to hasten many other leaks by fixing this one?
>>>>
>>>
>>> The likeliest problem would be having the coolant tower break -- if it's
>>> an original it's well past the time of anticipated failure.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Would rescue tape work for a few years and prevent me from causing new
>>>> problems in the immediate future?
>>>>
>>>
>>> It could, depending on where the leak is. But it's difficult to apply
>>> properly without good access and a clean dry hose. Beside the road, sure.
>>> At home, makes much more sense to replace the hose.
>>>
>>>
>>>> All I need at present is one hose ($14.95). Should I change all of the
>>>> coolant system ($944, if I am not mistaken)? If I don't change all of
>>>> the
>>>> system, what would be the smartest items to replace?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Depends how old they are. If they're from '86, any or all, and any
>>> plastic cooling parts (distributor housing, nipple on right head to the
>>> bleed manifold that runs around the hatch, tower, bleed manifold unless
>>> it's metal) are past due for replacement.
>>>
>>> Aside from shipping costs, the more you replace at one time, the fewer
>>> times you have to drain and refill the system. Depends whether time/money
>>> or peace of mind are more important to you in the moment.
>>>
>>> I had four coolant leaks in three months when I put my present '89 on the
>>> road. I took the hint.
>>>
>>> Yrs,
>>> d
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Weak in the knees,
>>>> Gabby
>>>> 1986 WBX Westy
>>>>
>>>
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