Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 18:34:24 -0700
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From: OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: Front Heater Fan Motor Lube?
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Yaaah ~ What EC Said & Said So Well ~
On 25 Jan , 2020, at 12:43 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
> Hi Andrew and Karl,
>
> Selfishly I need to encourage Andrew to reconsider. The internet isn’t available to all. I find it very difficult to use. The hands on experience and willing sharing that happens on this list is one of the main reason’s my van is still in my world. When people stop working together and sharing ideas that will become much more difficult or even impossible for me.
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> I read nothing in the comments on the topic of the heater fan fix that was insulting or offensive. There are many experiences and many possible ways of solving problems. There are usually many right ways.
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> Karl’s info has been very helpful to me. I have parts he created on my van now. I would not have known about them if not for this list.
> I hope everyone is willing to share ideas and experiences. Without them our community falls apart.
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> We should be able to have a bit of tolerance when our ideas or experiences are not the only ones shared.
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> If we are afraid of offending someone because we had a different experience and don’t share the info we all loose out.
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> This list has been a positive community. There is no reason to take offense for example if one person suggests Subaru stop leak and someone else discusses possible down sides. It helps us make an informed choice.
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> Will I use the original clam shell or use the Van Cafe holder? Both can be correct answers but it is nice to know the options. No offense is happening due to discussion of different experiences with different tire sizes and such.
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> Neil uses a strap but Ben t uses a bold with big washer. I’ll probably use both methods at different times. But, I’m glad I know about the bolt idea for holding the tire to the clam shell without the wires. Such a simple option, and I didn’t think of it.
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> I’m using Karls starter adaptor with the starter he recommended but the GW starter might be a better choice for someone else.
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> Andrew, Karl and others keep sharing your ideas. But, don’t take offense if there is healthy discussion around them. Rather please add thoughts and experiences to the group.
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> One other thing, There is actually a continual flow of people in and out of the community. I’ve met several young 20 something couples fixing up air cooled and water cooled buses and showing up at VW camp outs and concerts. I'd love to see more of them join a list like this and feel comfortable asking any bus questions.
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> I may not have all the best advice but I’ve owned a VW bug or bus for the past 37 years and grew up with them in the family. Some of that background can be helpful.
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> Despite knowing my ideas and experiences may not be the most complete, I’ll endeavor to support our community.
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> The more of you that share the better.
> Now I’m off to let out a few pounds of pressure out of my front tires.
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>
> With warmth, and appreciativeness.
>
> Eric Caron
> 85 Gl Auto
>
>> On Jan 25, 2020, at 12:34 PM, Andrew Martin <ramblinvan@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Karl!
>> This comes under “a little knowledge is a dangerous thing”. I don’t have your extensive automotive background but as I close in on 60 I’ve stopped sharing what I’ve learned through actual hands-on experience unless I’m dealing with someone face to face.
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>> The internets are accessible to all, even those among us that may not be equipped to accept full responsibility for their own interpretations and actions.
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>> With respect and gratitude!
>>
>> Andrew
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>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Jan 24, 2020, at 11:57 PM, Karl Mullendore <tdiguru@westyventures.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey, ya know who doesn't give a flyin' fig whether someone 'supports' (or not) something I did? If you can't perform it properly and direct the lube accurately into a bearing, using proper lubricants, DON'T DO IT. The 'hack' as some call it involves freeing up a stuck bronze bearing and lubricating it. That's ALL. If you end up spraying the [wrong?] lube everywhere and creating a fire hazard, well...that's on you.
>>> WHAT I DID, ONE TIME, WORKED. There was no disaster, safety issue, fire, blah blah blah. Holy moly. Use the right amperage fuse too, that miraculously helps, go figure! This is another example of why I rarely offer anyone advice or help anymore, such a wide variety of abilities that moreoften someone screws something up or I get crap about my ideas.
>>> Karl
>>> gettin' too old for silly BS
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