Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 19:48:35 -0500
Reply-To: Eric Caron <ericcaron96@COMCAST.NET>
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From: Eric Caron <ericcaron96@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: Bilstein shock query
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Yes,
I’m always learning more about these vans.
This just means that checking out a Synchro front end is now on my summer events to do list!
Eric Caron
85 GL Auto currently at the Spa in Bohemia
> On Feb 14, 2020, at 6:08 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Eric,
> Syncros and regular Vanagons have quite different shock options. For Syncros there are not many choices for the front. The needs or effects on ride and handling are also drastically different.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> On Behalf Of Eric Caron
> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 11:35
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Bilstein shock query
>
> Hi alistair,
>
> And just to unnecessarily complicate things I believe mine were “revolved” or something by GW for Westfalia use. Not sure if that was rally a special adjusted shock or just the yellow HD mentioned here.
> The ride is great and I have no complaints, but then again compared to some of the 4 shocks that I could push the rod down by hand and it just stayed there.
>
> Looking forward to your decision and future report.
>
>
> Eric Caron
>
>
>
>> On Feb 13, 2020, at 11:16 AM, Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Chris,
>>
>> But still a little confusion. Looking at van cafe listing for the Syncro 16 front shocks, which although not mentioned in ad, I’m assuming it’s the B6, it shows the spring perch separate part ( located on ring on shock body).
>> The other bilstein shocks shown on go westy have integral spring perch.
>>
>> You know the temptation is great to go for the separate spring perch. Could shim for height adjustment.
>>
>> Alistair
>>
>>> On Feb 13, 2020, at 6:36 AM, christopher@t3technique.com wrote:
>>>
>>> The black Bilstein shocks are B4s (standard) and the yellow are B6s (which many refer to as "HD").
>>>
>>> Christopher
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> On Behalf Of Alistair Bell
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 6:08 PM
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> Subject: Re: Bilstein shock query
>>>
>>> That’s interesting dan. I’m still not sure if the HD bilsteins you reference are the b6 or b4, or a third option?
>>>
>>> Chris’ comment about the b6 being quite firm gives me pause. I still like the idea of them , but I’m thinking more. That’s hard :-)
>>>
>>> Alistair
>>>
>>>> On Feb 12, 2020, at 9:52 AM, Dan N <dn92610@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have 2 tintop syncro..
>>>> the white 1990 has stock springs and OME shocks front and rear, empty it sits about 1" taller than 2WD van or westy, 14" OEM alloys rims, General Grabber ATX 27X8.5 tires.
>>>> the beige 1991 has Schwenk springs by the previous owner and I installed recently HD Bilstein shocks front and rear, empty it sits about 1" taller than the white van, BFG AT KO2 215/65x16 tires on 16" Borbet rims.
>>>> somehow I feel that the ride (both empty vans) on the white one is a bit smoother than the beige one, fully loaded the difference is less obvious but it's there. I'd think the difference in the ride is due the the stiffness of the side wall of the tires (BFG vs. General Grabber) combined with the age of the shocks - the OME shocks is older than he HD Bilstein.
>>>>
>>>> dan
>>>
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