Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 19:10:47 -0800
Reply-To: Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA>
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From: Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA>
Subject: Re: Friday subject - are we on the list just old farts?
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I go on and off with beard. Every time I go on it gets whiter...
Alistair
> On Feb 14, 2020, at 7:07 PM, Richard Koerner <rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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> I remember a List entry years ago. The question was: Do most Vanagon owners have beards? Seemed so to the inquirer. And....I think the answer is ... Yes. Only now...the color has changed from Salt and Pepper....to mostly Salt. True for me! But I still change my oil and filter, and I've got a bitchen 2.2 Subaru motor in my backside. So...Take that you youngsters! Ha-Ha!!!
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> Rich
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> San Diego
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> On Friday, February 14, 2020, 6:56:36 PM PST, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
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> Eric,
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> I can totally see and concur. I suppose my shorthand had made two groups, the young and naive and the old and jaded :-)
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> As with all things, it’s more nuanced.
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> But the mailing list is old tech. Sheesh, us old guys still hang on to listserv as cutting edge :-)
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> Alistair
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> > On Feb 14, 2020, at 6:47 PM, Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net> wrote:
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> > When I go to VW bus gatherings most of us are I believe 50 and older. Still In my VW closest group there are folks in their 40s.
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> > At these same events there are always a few 30 somethings even folks in their late twenties but not as many as the older groups.
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> > The younger groups seem to be a mix some working hard to keep a bus nice and functional. An a few with busses that look like they were already parked in the weeds and could not possibly start up and move, yet they do.
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> > A lot of the younger folks purchased vanagon or busses I would not have recommended. They are just learning about the care and don’t have this list or someone to guide them. I’ve seen many yellow 1980 air cooled buses brought back from the dead by these younger folks. Then again, that may have been the only starting van they could afford.
> > So, I’m guessing we are a older bunch but the younger folks are still in the mix.
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> > As for this list I don’t think it is easy to find or know about. And the younger group is all about facebook.
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> > Eric
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> >> On Feb 14, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA> wrote:
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> >> Now don’t get me wrong. Don’t think I’m accusing anyone or if this has to do with any recent list subjects.
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> >> It’s ti do with my own experience, day to day. I work where I’m the oldest person. This is a first for me. The other guys are half my age and pretty well twice my smarts. And we do a lot of Toyota Tacoma and forerunner accessories and mods. And some jeep stuff.
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> >> These vehicles are all within 5 years old, many are brand new. The purchase price of these toys is high, and what we put on them isn’t cheap.
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> >> Customers all younger than me, all enthusiastic and energetic. And all want that off road ( overland) look for the trucks.
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> >> As an owners group, they all are much younger and more willing to spend money than what the average vanagon owner is. They vast majority of vanagon owners I meet are around my age(61). Yes, I know there are younger owners, some of the van life types, but majority are old farts. And we old farts are tight with our money. And often we have the btdt attitude that I’m finding, in myself, to be a negative attitude.
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> >> What do you folk think? I know there are younger list members, even now with the list being much much much quieter than the hay days of the 90s and 00s.
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> >> Just a Friday musing eh?
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> >> Alistair
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