Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 18:25:55 -0800
Reply-To: Neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Westfalia Shore Power Ground Bonding Minutia: Breaker Box
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Thanks Dennis.
I'd installed a GFCI box.
During this breaker replacement job, I double checked that the (#12 ?
) green ground wire between vehicle frame and breaker box, was secure.
In the breaker box, I'll connect a #14 bare copper ground pigtail to
the box then connect the line and load grounds to that.
The Bluesea 15 Amp breaker I'm installing uses quick connect
terminals. The breaker I'm replacing, (images of that):
https://tinyurl.com/yx63aazu
https://tinyurl.com/tm4t49d
appears to have the same type of quick connect male terminals but the
line and load wires were soldered to them. Maybe to allow room for the
breaker to fit properly.
As per the old work, I connected stranded wire to the line and load
wires then installed insulated push on connectors to them but found
that the box depth didn't allow enough room; those stranded wires
butted up against the back of box and didn't allow the breaker to fit.
Hopefully, a 3" deep box, vs the stock 2.5" deep box, will allow
enough room.
Neil.
On 2/24/20, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Although most electrical devices can be grounded through the mounting
> hardware the best method is to have a grounding wire connected to all
> devices and metal boxes, including the van itself. The van grounding should
> be as close to the inlet plug as possible. The inlet is considered a service
> entrance so within a few feet it needs to have over current protection, that
> 15 amp breaker. This is especially important as when at a campground you can
> be connected a 20 amp circuit or with adapters a 30 or even 50 amp circuit.
> Since there is a kitchen involved or you can be outside on the ground
> current code also requires a GFCI interrupter. Then if we really want to go
> crazy ARC flash protection for that frayed cord and tamper resistant
> receptacles for the children.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Neil N
> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 3:13 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Westfalia Shore Power Ground Bonding Minutia: Breaker Box
>
> Hi folks.
>
> I'm replacing the 110VAC 15 Amp shore power circuit breaker in a 1981
> Canadian model Westfalia.
>
> In that 110VAC breaker box, from the "factory", was the shore power ground
> wire bonded to the Loomex ground wire to outlet and that "single" wire was
> bonded to a single ground screw in the breaker box?
> Did this also apply to US models?
>
> On my van, it appears this was the case but was altered so the shore power
> ground bonded to one screw on box and the outlet ground bonded to another
> screw on that box.
>
> Should I re do the ground like this:
>
> bond a new #14 solid copper pig tail wire to ground screw in breaker box,
> use marrette to connect the stranded green shore power ground, and ground to
> outlet box, to that pig tail wire?
>
> As far as I know, this is how a ground wiring to/from an outlet box in a
> residence is done in Canada.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Neil.
>
> --
> Neil n
>
> VE7TBN
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