Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 11:17:45 -0700
Reply-To: vw_van_fan_Mark <madvws@COX.NET>
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From: vw_van_fan_Mark <madvws@COX.NET>
Subject: Re: Real time help needed
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That is the point of my earlier described test of manually turning the
distributor with it raised up a little.
The turning hall feeds pulses to the ECU and the ECU then uses them for
3 other functions which you can verify. If any of the 3 functions are
working every 1/4 turn of the distributor then you know the hall is
making pulses and the ECU is recognizing them.
No need to pull a plug. Just use the center wire pulled from the
distributor cap, with the end of the wire places near metal so a spark
can jump from the end to the metal.
Mark
Alistair Bell wrote:
> Oh another thing, I don’t detect any gas smell during all the cranking. Tell me I should if injectors firing, right?
>
> So I’m suspecting no injector action or no fuel delivery
>
> Ab
>
>> On Mar 29, 2020, at 11:05 AM, Stacy Schneider <vwcrewman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Have you pulled a plug and checked for spark? Look at the halls plug and make sure it is sound. I once had this situation and the ring on the back of the alternator had snapped.
>> This would be a good time to have one of Mark Drillocks devised testing devices.
>>
>> Stacy
>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 11:02 AM Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>> Yes, battery good and when cranked low durign tests I combined it with my 200 Ahr aux battery.
>>>
>>> Have on board charger, it’s been charging all night now.
>>>
>>> Alistair
>>>
>>>> On Mar 29, 2020, at 10:49 AM, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> No time now to read all to see what You have checked > Just will ask if
>>>>
>>>> You have checked to see if Battery has @Least Full Voltage ~ Had similar hap'
>>>>
>>>> once & it turned out to be Shorted Cell so there was still plenty of Juice to Crank
>>>>
>>>> but Not Enough Volts to make ECU Happy ~
>>>>
>>>>> On 29 Mar , 2020, at 10:26 AM, Alistair Bell wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan,
>>>>>
>>>>> The box that has the two relays? Fuel pump and ecu relays?
>>>>>
>>>>> I did swap relays and felt for them clicking when I inserted them with ign on. Being alone that’s the way I had to do it . Fuel pump does hum on start, as does the idle air valve .
>>>>>
>>>>> But I’ll check the wires to those relays again today. And the black wire from coil to ecu.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Alistair
>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 29, 2020, at 8:56 AM, Dan N <dn92610@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not sure if this help but you may want to try. Similar situation happened to me on a long trip... stop for gas and the engine didn't start, it cranked strong. Pish the van on the side and called a mechanic.. he can't come till next day because he's busy.
>>>>>> So I went to the engine bay and check all the connections. Finally found this:
>>>>>> - on the black box that sits on top of the coil, there's one large wire loom and one small one
>>>>>> - disconnect the small one, clean the connector and reconnect.
>>>>>> try it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 5:20 PM Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>> No spare ecu.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is absolutely no gas smell from tail pipe after all the cranking. I’d imagine I would smell some.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But I’m sure I hear the pump come on and shut off as usual when ign on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tomorrow I’ll make sure I have fuel at least to the injectors
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Being one man here and no remote start, fiddling on the engine while cranking ain’t gonna happen today
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alistair
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> 1989 Swedish Tristar with Aluminum gates and Atiwe 16" Wheels.
>> Oldest son is an Eagle scout.
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