Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 13:15:31 -0700
Reply-To: Mark Belanger <mbelanger@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Mark Belanger <mbelanger@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Update Re: Engine died,
March 31 update and maybe ecu smoking gun?
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Both require an external power supply powered by AC.
"Portable" seems to mean there is no desktop unit attached to it, not that
it is cordless.
-MB
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 2:15 PM Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Mark,
>
> Was thinking your example needed external power supply.
>
> In any case, I’ve been thinking of a new iron for the shop, but maybe
> instead I’ll use th money for a van portable one.
>
> Cheers
>
> Ab
>
> On Apr 3, 2020, at 2:11 PM, Mark Belanger <mbelanger@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Same thing. Runs off an external power supply and heats up to 400C.
> Standard Chinese product, where there seems to be one reference design sold
> under a bunch of different brands. They all use TS tips. The
> differentiators are typically what is bundled with the unit. I can vouch
> for the one I bought, but I did also buy a beefier tip to go with it.
>
> The butane iron I referenced is the only one I've ever owned and have
> never run out of fuel in the middle of use.
>
>
> -MB
>
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 1:02 PM Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> I was thinking more along the lines of this
>>
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/YKEY-Programmable-Pocket-size-Soldering-Acceleration/dp/B071K5FNGT/ref=sr_1_9?crid=366871RDEB5JY&dchild=1&keywords=usb+soldering+iron&qid=1585944038&sprefix=Usb+solder%2Caps%2C215&sr=8-9
>>
>> Or similar.
>>
>> My one butane iron never lasted long. Probably better ones now and that’s
>> a good option.
>>
>> Alistair
>>
>> On Apr 3, 2020, at 12:16 PM, Mark Belanger <mbelanger@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> You mean like this one?
>>
>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D35B75T/>
>>
>> While they're quite amazing, they require 24V 3A DC, usually via
>> transformer. I also have have a nifty butane powered soldering iron from a
>> company in Japan:
>>
>> <https://www.engineer.jp/en/products/sk70e.html>
>>
>> Though, my came with a nice metal case. I actually use it with the hot
>> blower tip for heat shrink tubing more than for soldering. Really handy
>> thing.
>>
>>
>> -MB
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 10:55 AM Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> One of those new generation usb chargeable ones?
>>>
>>> Ab
>>>
>>> > On Apr 1, 2020, at 10:42 AM, Jack R <jack007@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Adding a soldering iron to my on-board tool kit, thanks to you
>>> sharing your adventure!
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Alistair Bell
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 1:15 PM
>>> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> > Subject: Re: Update Re: Engine died, March 31 update and maybe ecu
>>> smoking gun?
>>> >
>>> > Yes the strange times did add a dimension to the event.
>>> >
>>> > But golly, was so lucky to breakdown within pushing distance of work,
>>> and it wasn’t somewhere else.
>>> >
>>> > God forbid it happened on a logging road.
>>> >
>>> > Alistair
>>> >
>>> >> On Apr 1, 2020, at 10:05 AM, Steven Johnson <sjohnso2000@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Bravo! Congratulations! And thanks for giving me something to look
>>> >> forward to reading
>>> >> during these strange times....
>>> >>
>>> >> Steven
>>> >> 91 Westy
>>> >>
>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 5:38 PM Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I want that tee shirt :-)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Ab
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>> On Mar 31, 2020, at 5:21 PM, stuartmacm@gmail.com wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Congrats Alistair! You fixed you Vanagon with a soldering iron! I
>>> bet
>>> >>> that's what ECU rebuilders do.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> On Behalf Of
>>> >>> Alistair Bell
>>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 5:17 PM
>>> >>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> >>>> Subject: Re: Update Re: Engine died, March 31 update and maybe ecu
>>> >>> smoking gun?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> It worked!
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Thank you very much mark for all your help.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Alistair
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>>> On Mar 31, 2020, at 5:04 PM, vw_van_fan_Mark <madvws@cox.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> No, bottom left is pin 25.
>>> >>>>>> Pin 25 is the ignition coil trigger from it's driver transistor.
>>> >>>>>> That check mark for the middle pin of the transistor appears to
>>> show
>>> >>> that your bad solder joint is for the pin 25 signal as hoped.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Mark
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Alistair Bell wrote:
>>> >>>>>> Ok, did that.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> And apologies for the confusing way I noted results.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> The board tested in orientation shown, the red tape and black
>>> marks
>>> >>>>>> refer to the pin orientation and results.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> From pin mark outwards, too and bottom, check mark means
>>> continuity,
>>> >>>>>> check plus asterisk means brief continuity. Dash mark means no
>>> >>> continuity.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Started with transistor leg on right. Marks on tape closest to pin
>>> >>>>>> marks. Working ext was middle leg, and finally left leg.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> I think, if I’ve rotated things in my head correctly, the pin
>>> marks
>>> >>>>>> are too left 13, top right 1 Bottom left 14 , bottom right 25
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> If that’s right, nine of your suggested pins have continuity to
>>> any
>>> >>>>>> of the legs of the trans.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> https://shufti.files.wordpress.com/2020/03/3e721a30-3d1c-42e2-9f2a-19
>>> >>>>>> 2eb14ad5a1.jpeg
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> The transistor as I measured, right leg first, then middle then
>>> left
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> https://shufti.files.wordpress.com/2020/03/cb7b8634-ac9f-4345-b857-3a
>>> >>>>>> 8a061a9e54.jpeg
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Ab
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 31, 2020, at 4:17 PM, vw_van_fan_Mark <madvws@cox.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> For fun you could use an Ohm meter to see if that transistor
>>> >>>>>>> connects to the ECU pin that drives the ignition coil.
>>> >>>>>>> Put a meter probe on each of the three legs in turn and test the
>>> ECU
>>> >>>>>>> pin(s) with the other probe.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> I would look at ECU pins 25, 12 3
>>> >>>>>>> to see if any leg of that transistor connects to any of those
>>> pins.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> The driver transistor for the fuel injectors is the one I'm used
>>> to
>>> >>>>>>> seeing a bad connector at.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Mark
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Alistair Bell wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>> That black component that had the one leg solder joint broken is
>>> >>>>>>>> BUV37B
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Looked up and it’s , if I read it right, a power transistor.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Alistair
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
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