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Date:         Sun, 5 Apr 2020 09:47:40 -0700
Reply-To:     David McNeely <davmcneely40@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         David McNeely <davmcneely40@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: coolants The Dennis perspective!
Comments: To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <SN6PR10MB2894F37DBA39B1E9A73EFB5EA0C50@SN6PR10MB2894.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>
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I really thought it was important to use a phosphate free coolant, so I have made that a point each time I change. Since better brand name coolants specify, that is easy to do.

mcneely

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 9:17 AM Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I think the biggest value of this article is the quick explanation of why > there are so many choices. To add to this confusion just add industrial > applications and other heavy duty applications. There are applications out > there where coolant changes just aren’t practical so other maintenance > methods are required and while most of us just think of corrosion as the > concern there are other things that can happen to the insides of an engine. > There are also all the dissimilar metals that can be a cooling system, and > some of those change when we change parts. For example my motorhome has a > cast iron engine and the original radiator was copper-brass along with the > heater core. The radiator has been replaced with a aluminum unit. The > original coolant was a Diesel engine specific that required regular > additive testing and the addition of supplemental coolant additives to > protect from cylinder cavitation erosion. > > After the radiator change switched over the a product called Final Charge. > This has become my coolant of choice. This is an extreme long life coolant > which for the most part eliminates coolant maintenance for us. A downside > is that this product has very low surface tension so if there is anything > that can leak, it will. It also leaves a reside trail making small leaks > easier to find. However it keeps things clean, does not have abrasives that > eat water pump seals and should reduce or avoid the cavitation erosion that > sometimes destroys our head studs. > > For the most part, any coolant will work for us. Avoid mixing the > different types and especially if you have hard or well water avoid using > it. I hate paying for water but I purchase coolant pre-mixed. > > Dennis > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf > Of Mbob1950 > Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 8:14 AM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: coolants > > Agreed > Makes no sense at all. > > > Bob > > > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fidiopath2017.wordpress.com%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca44e62d9ee3c411865ce08d7d95ad125%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637216856384529446&amp;sdata=4%2FXlsPG9hWIlT1hlEPDTP0cqAjw5kxmahjaMhCedwVc%3D&amp;reserved=0 > > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fidiopath2018.wordpress.com%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca44e62d9ee3c411865ce08d7d95ad125%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637216856384529446&amp;sdata=t9JMHGo7P%2FboTrqr3pMt00%2B1UjAIxJiNtK6KFuHajp4%3D&amp;reserved=0 > https:/idiopath2019.home.blog > https:/idiopath2020.wordpress.com > > > > > > > On Apr 4, 2020, at 23:53, Tom Hargrave <thargrav@HIWAAY.NET> wrote: > > > > So, per the article you should: > > > > Use brand A, or maybe Brand B, but be careful those two contain > 'bad stuff' and maybe it's Brand C, maybe..... > > > > This is the most confusing article I've read in a long time. > > > > Thanks, Tom Hargrave > > > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kegkits.com%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca44e62d9ee3c411865ce08d7d95ad125%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637216856384529446&amp;sdata=5ow21L4dyqvwk%2F64ZEnzkeMVM%2Faq2eP1CdHMP%2BNT3%2F4%3D&amp;reserved=0 > – Electric Brewery Info > > > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.towercooler.com%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca44e62d9ee3c411865ce08d7d95ad125%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637216856384529446&amp;sdata=RAaO0gFO8zynqZdCLjD9vXiMLRTVLuXNeMguF6tYPFw%3D&amp;reserved=0 > – Beer Tower Cooler > > > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fgoo.gl%2FniRzVw&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca44e62d9ee3c411865ce08d7d95ad125%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637216856384529446&amp;sdata=5bcyJ2jsc0JWxbePoLcYYC4g2clzr2KAazBswu2DOz0%3D&amp;reserved=0 > - My Amazon Store > > > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brew-control.com%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca44e62d9ee3c411865ce08d7d95ad125%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637216856384529446&amp;sdata=uBzk98OIwr3Unfez%2Bs9r2xZIXNfMPZqWWZD0LLw4Cmk%3D&amp;reserved=0 > – Electric Brewery Marketing and Direct Sales > > > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hackpilot.com%2Froadkill%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca44e62d9ee3c411865ce08d7d95ad125%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637216856384529446&amp;sdata=CtGls7r8M4kj8WfEpP4SfZBe%2BM%2FGn0HtV965nnvSSRA%3D&amp;reserved=0 > - A little twisted humor > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf > Of Larry Alofs > > Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2020 9:25 AM > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > Subject: coolants > > > > The Rockauto April newsletter has an interesting article about coolant > additives. > > > > > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rockauto.com%2FNewsletter%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca44e62d9ee3c411865ce08d7d95ad125%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637216856384529446&amp;sdata=2xiBfJwfMkE2z74wT4k3%2BiIlclek9ivLiXJYKvoLi%2Bg%3D&amp;reserved=0 > > > > Larry A. > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.avg.com%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca44e62d9ee3c411865ce08d7d95ad125%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637216856384529446&amp;sdata=OkF%2Fy%2F97V%2Bgtt4Ja8sBLxIjloovsV1sQTPTUvcyfij0%3D&amp;reserved=0 > > Version: 2016.0.7924 / Virus Database: 4793/15886 - Release Date: > 08/14/18 Internal Virus Database is out of date. >


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