Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2020 20:59:49 -0400
Reply-To: T Collins <tonycollin@GMAIL.COM>
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From: T Collins <tonycollin@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Looking for a project?
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So if one had a 1.9 and wanted to replace with one of the 2.3 the fuling
system would also have to be upgraded?
Thanks.
T.
On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 3:15 PM Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> I'm currently doing a 2.7L and also have experience with the 2.3, some
> past 100K. So here are some of my thoughts.
> The Waterboxer really is a "purpose built" engine. It is already designed
> at some limits and there are lessons learned from the air cooled engines.
> It is no mistake that this is short stroke, low compression engine designed
> to spin like mad but under minimal stress to get a job done while still
> using a minimalistic approach to emissions control, while still drinking a
> lot of fuel. Wow, I know a mouthful. But seriously this engine does a lot
> and properly set up and running as it should it can take being flogged all
> day. They really don’t wear out and most all failures are the result of a
> support system failure. That said to me anything that increases performance
> is going to create a compromise somewhere else. Longevity or economy or
> emissions, something.
>
> First off you need to look at the total cost of the upgrade and what do
> you really want to get out of it. These engines are pricey made worse by
> shipping and core charges. The 2.2 or 2.3 will run on the original 2.1L
> Digifant. However I strongly recommend the GW EFI upgrade. Even with the
> mild compression increase of the 2.3L you increase the chance of
> pre-ignition so you really want the knock sensor. 2.4 and larger and you
> also need to consider the increased cost of running premium fuel. While GW
> doesn't promote it any of these engines really need oil temperature
> monitoring and control. Especially for those that plan to use the increased
> power.
>
> The 2.3L I think is the value leader. The 2.2 is just the 96MM pistons.
> The 2.3L gets the counter weighted stroker crankshaft. This engine can also
> be put together yourself. Requires very little checking and clearanceing of
> the case. It also works well with stock gearing.
>
> For engine overhauling I think the one thing GW has is their pistons.
> While I hate the concept of turning cylinders I have done some top end
> overhauls using their 2.2 sets and have been quite pleased by the results.
> I hate the rattling sounds of those QSC cylinder sets and too many have
> come back with broken rings or oil consumption issues. GW has the piston to
> cylinder clearance right! So far their complete engines have been "0" issue
> installs for me.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> Of Dan N
> Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 1:20 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Looking for a project?
>
> according few reports from others the 2.2 and 2.3 give decent HP and good
> reliability... I heard some problems on 2.4 and 2.5 nothing on 2.7 yet. If
> i pick one today it will be 2.3 but the 2.5 is tempting.
>
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 10:14 AM Gabriel Hourtouat <ghourtouat@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Of the WBX engines they have on offer (various displacement); which
> > would you pick, and why?
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 8:31 PM Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Stuart,
> > >
> > > If I only had the skills that you and other’s have on this
> list!
> > >
> > > Also, I noticed that their program for doing assessments on van’s is
> > > also on sale.
> > >
> > > Not sure of the cost but it is available at at a $50.00 discount.
> > >
> > > Eric
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Apr 2, 2020, at 5:29 PM, Stuart MacMillan
> > > > <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Go Westy has engines and transmissions on sale:
> > > > https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2F
> > > > www.gowesty.com
> %2Fsearch-results.php%3Fsearch_phrase%3Dmegasale&data=02%7C01%7C%7C65ba7800dc3e4c6c153e08d7da4ec948%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637217904238125013&sdata=NFS64zYRIJ2g4%2B0fYCGwX59UPsae1btyYBRnPl6KSwQ%3D&reserved=0
> > >
> >
>
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