Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 17:49:12 -0700
Reply-To: Bruce Todd <beeceetee@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Bruce Todd <beeceetee@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: New engine, was Re: Ecu fix addendum
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Curious - approximately how long does it take to install the new EFI
system? I looked it up on the GW site two days ago after Alistair
identified the issue to his stall - and it said for a mechanic familiar
with the install - it would take about 8 hours. I imagine it might depend
if you are only installing the EFI system on an existing motor and not
necessarily to a rebuilt one.
Bruce
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 3:15 PM Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> From experience rarely will a Waterboxer oil pressure problem be resolved
> with a simple rebuild. Bearing wear is not the usual problem. I have seen
> bad pumps and some new ones so far out they can make things worse, even the
> oversized ones. Often the real problem is temperature control. Some
> diagnostics is needed. If the case is worn though the rebuild will need to
> include having the case align bored. At that point a high quality exchange
> engine may make sense.
>
> From the engine control point of view I have become quite familiar with
> the GoWesty EFI. Eric's van will be getting the 5th system I've installed.
> I'm finishing a GW 2.7 now and the others have gone on 2.3's. I've seen
> the 2.3L running the original Digifant and then changed to the GW EFI. The
> difference has surprised me.
>
> Yes this is awfully expensive made worse by paying for the installation
> but it is nice to all new stuff with most parts readily available.
>
> Over the years I've become well practiced doing just top end services with
> the engine even in place. I'm still considering a set of heads and rings on
> Fun Bus. The heads have visible hairline cracks on the outside and one of
> the exhaust ports is sealed with furnace cement. The rings have lost
> compression after the ECU filled the engine with gas some 2 years ago.
> Still it runs well and leaks more oil than it burns. Oil pressure still
> good even at 354K.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> Of Alistair Bell
> Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 1:12 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: New engine, was Re: Ecu fix addendum
>
> Hi Neil,
>
> I’m scared of rebuilding engine. Yes, I am. My initial desire was an
> in-line 2.0 ABA motronic. I have the old 1.8 that did so well in my 82 van.
> Have the diesel bell housing and carrier bars and pan etc.
>
> Also have. 2.0 ABA block and head that might be rebuildable.
>
> And I have a spare 2.1 block, with heads that have inter valve cracks.
>
> And I have a 2.2 legacy in driveway.
>
> The Syncro makes some difficulty with inline four. Either find a diesel
> fuel tank or buy a conversion adapter plate.
>
> The spare wbx attracts me more than I would have imagined. But I need
> handholding for the assessment of the pistons and jugs, and the bottom end
> (I should split case right?) plus I need new heads. And I’m less than
> enamoured with the wbx digifant intake.
>
> I dither and I procrastinate.
>
> Alistair
>
> > On Apr 1, 2020, at 9:58 AM, Neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Alistair.
> >
> > A fellow with your skills would have no problem rebuilding or at least
> > refreshing your given engine of choice. As pretty much a newb
> > rebuilder, I debated rebuilding my WBX 2.1 but, presumably, found
> > rebuilding my inline 4 as likely much easier. I sold the WBX as a core
> > for $500 CAD. No regrets other than the extra WBX parts I need to
> > sell!
> >
> > Neil.
> >
> >> On 4/1/20, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >> For years I’ve been saying to myself that this year I’m putting in a
> >> new engine.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Neil n
> >
> > VE7TBN
> >
> > 1988 Westy 50º ABA swap:
> > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftiny
> > url.com%2Fyap5hpwt&data=02%7C01%7C%7C2413194f80e148f502db08d7d65fe
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> > d=0
> >
> > 1981 Westy 15º ABA swap:
> > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftiny
> > url.com%2Fy9n4xob8&data=02%7C01%7C%7C2413194f80e148f502db08d7d65fe
> > 1b1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637213579599082831&am
> > p;sdata=ZzDacVZuPSwdTvZm0jXOIJ4shDMNbe1m1KCFEwNKuLc%3D&reserved=0
> >
> > VAG Gas Engine Swap Group
> > <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftiny
> > url.com%2Fkhalbay&data=02%7C01%7C%7C2413194f80e148f502db08d7d65fe1
> > b1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637213579599082831&
> > ;sdata=pUrZwRtwJIkMfjRI35cF2FD%2BYZlqIoRq0zvDnRZAkTE%3D&reserved=0
> > >
>
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