Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 10:43:39 -0500
Reply-To: Jeff Palmer <w.jeff.palmer@ICLOUD.COM>
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From: Jeff Palmer <w.jeff.palmer@ICLOUD.COM>
Subject: Re: Free Westy middle jumpseat in SoCal?
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My white 85 auto Westfalia (Eric’s twin) also has rails (maybe all 85s do?) I found a double seat in the same brown fabric a couple of years ago. It’s a great addition although super heavy and a pain in the butt to install. The fabric is the same brown velour, but without any “texture” that the front or rear bench have if you know what I mean. Always wondered if that was original or recovered? It has seatbelts, headrests (grey ones that don’t match) and folds down for rear entry. I assume they are all the same?
I am still looking for light brown headrests if there are any out there.
I still have the original brown carpet that hides under a new remnant that I buy every so often. Would like to keep the tracks exposed rather than hidden under layers of carpet or potentially a solid solution. Was anything available originally for a floor covering or was everything exposed?
Thanks
Jeff
> On Apr 17, 2020, at 11:41 PM, Eric Caron <ericcaron96@COMCAST.NET> wrote:
>
> I’m not sure what vans had the rails but my 85 does. And, I’ve used both the two seat and single seat on the rails for extra seating.
>
> My grey seat fits the same rails so I have to wonder if 85 is the only year. What year did the grey interior start? Or maybe that was used on the same rails in later passenger vans? Either way the rails must have been there when there was a grey interior.
>
> I did read that the single swivel was very rare. I almost think just the 85.
>
> the single seat is pretty nice as it uses the rails but has the same swivel as the front seats. It also has a storage compartment with the same lock as the glove box.
>
> I’m forgetting now but I almost think I purchased the base from someone on the list, maybe Mark?
>
> The seat was given to me by a local VW friend and pack rat. It is far from perfect but serviceable.
>
> Tips from folks on this list helped me get it in good shape. Interestingly it has no head rest or arm rests. The collector said he thought it was originally from a 85 swivel seat.
>
> I rarely use them in the van, but they are fun toys.
>
> Eric
>
>
>> On Apr 17, 2020, at 10:59 PM, Edward Maglott <emaglott3@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>
>> I have a 85 full westy that had the slide in single seat on a swivel.
>>
>> I retrofitted the whole westy interior into a 86 westfalia "weekender"
>> Edward
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2020, 10:42 PM Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> 85 seems to be the year that had the floor with the rails and covers to
>>> accept the additional seat. Shortly after I purchased Fun Bus I worked with
>>> the dealer to order all the parts needed to add the seat and floor parts as
>>> I needed to seat 5 at the time. VWoA caught on and stopped the order. Never
>>> got in writing but was told that seat wasn't crash tested. My guess is that
>>> being centered with the sliding door it was not a good place to be if
>>> t-boned on that side. I ended up with an American van seat set up that was
>>> used for many years. Now I have a rear facing set up like used on the later
>>> carats. I like that set up better as it leaves the space in the center of
>>> the van open and is very easy to folds up out of the way or remove.
>>>
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
>>> Of David McNeely
>>> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 10:22 PM
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> Subject: Re: Free Westy middle jumpseat in SoCal?
>>>
>>> Eric, so far as I know, no Volkswagen Vanagon GL Campmobile ("Westy," or
>>> "Full Camper" as many call it) came with a jump seat. There are no rails
>>> to accommodate one in mine, for sure, and the owner's manual doesn't
>>> mention it. There is a one passenger jump seat that came in some other
>>> versions that some folks fit to the Campmobile. I have one of those, and
>>> it works really well if you install it properly. However, I suspect it
>>> would not meet current safety laws even installed properly, though it does
>>> have a shoulder belt -- that attaches to the same mounts as the front
>>> passenger belt.
>>>
>>> mcneely
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 7:14 PM Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Mark and others,
>>>>
>>>> It seems that if you are patient these seats still show up.
>>>>
>>>> I have been given a brown one in lovely condition that matches
>>>> my 85. I also have a grey one. I only use them in the van about once a
>>> year.
>>>>
>>>> I use them as small couches the rest of the year.
>>>>
>>>> Still, if someone with a grey van needs a middle seat I’ll give it to
>>>> them. I actually use the grey one in my van more as it feels a bit
>>>> lighter, so easier to install. I’m probably imagining it but maybe
>>>> they lightened it somehow.
>>>>
>>>> Both my middle seats have two arm rests. I suspect this means they
>>>> were originally in passenger vans. But they slide in on the rails.
>>>>
>>>> I’ve learned to remove one arm rest by the driver’s side to get a
>>>> perfect fit.
>>>>
>>>> Is the actual Westie jump seat different? Mine is a two seater.
>>>>
>>>> I also have the single seat option. That usually sits on a rocking
>>>> chair base I made for it. But it is ready to pop into the van if needed.
>>>>
>>>> Eric Caron
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 17, 2020, at 8:08 PM, vw_van_fan_Mark <madvws@COX.NET> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>> amp;sdata=NmSfJCYs0%2Bf5VHZsyzSaWcDJHFVADGIMT4VfytJA2EM%3D&reserve
>>>> d=0
>>>>>
>>>>> Not mine, won't get involved.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>
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