Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 16:32:17 -0400
Reply-To: Thomas Casal <thomas.casal@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Thomas Casal <thomas.casal@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Questions about brake bleeding
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I’m pretty sure the clutch doesn’t affect the bleed sequence from what I’ve
read on the samba and here. You may want to wait for Dennis or one of the
other masters to chime in but from my understanding that’s the sequence and
if you want to bleed the clutch you can do it after.
On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 4:11 PM Ryan Cresawn <jrcresawn@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, but with a manual transmission shouldn't the clutch slave cylinder
> also be flushed as part of this sequence? Pages 47.8 and 47.8a of the
> Bentley service manual document the bleed sequence the same as you have,
> but the clutch slave cylinder is not listed. Mine is a 1991 Vanagon with
> the original 2.1-liter engine and 4-speed manual transmission, if that
> matters.
>
> Thanks,
> Ryan
>
> On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 11:40 AM Thomas Casal <thomas.casal@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Sequence is farthest to closest to the master. So right rear left rear
>> right front left front.
>>
>> On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 12:45 PM Ryan Cresawn <jrcresawn@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I will be bleeding my brakes soon and I would like to know what the
>>> correct bleed order is with a manual transmission. I could not find
>>> instructions in the Bentley.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ryan
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 9:22 AM Thomas Casal <thomas.casal@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So I finally got a new g60 caliper the bleeder screw and inlet are in
>>>> different places but that’s not my problem although I thought I
>>>> installed
>>>> the caliper incorrectly for a second. I bled the system with the motive
>>>> bleeder. Looked like I got all the bubbles out let it drain for a while
>>>> after I stopped seeing bubbles but I have no pedal pressure when the
>>>> van is
>>>> running. however I do have pedal pressure when it’s not. I thought I
>>>> just
>>>> had to bleed it again maybe some air still trapped in the system but the
>>>> fact I have pedal pressure when it’s not running and none when it is is
>>>> making me think I have a different issue. Anyone have any idea? Is that
>>>> what that little sensor on the master cylinder does?
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 2:44 PM Neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Thanks a lot for clarifying that Stuart. The "rest of the class"
>>>> > likely understood what you meant but since I use a home brew pressure
>>>> > bleeder, was curious.
>>>> >
>>>> > Good to get a PSI value on this as well. I'm careful of how much
>>>> > pressure I use but over the years, may've been using too much. The
>>>> > plastic on my '81 fluid reservoir is old !
>>>> >
>>>> > Neil.
>>>> >
>>>> > On 5/5/20, stuartmacm@gmail.com <stuartmacm@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > When you release the pressure in the Motive tank the air at the
>>>> top of
>>>> > the
>>>> > > pressurized master cylinder reservoir will be forced back down the
>>>> hose
>>>> > and
>>>> > > bubble out of the tube that goes into the fluid. That's what I
>>>> meant.
>>>> > > Pinching off the hose will prevent this, or just don't open the
>>>> Motive
>>>> > > tank until bleeding is done, which means having a good amount of
>>>> fluid in
>>>> > > the tank when you start. It's a great product and I've used it
>>>> many
>>>> > times
>>>> > > on all my vehicles. I also use it to pressurize the Vanagon cooling
>>>> > system
>>>> > > for leak testing.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Stuart
>>>> > >
>>>> > > -----Original Message-----
>>>> > > From: Neil N <musomuso@gmail.com>
>>>> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 9:49 AM
>>>> > > To: Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com>
>>>> > > Cc: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com
>>>> > > Subject: Re: Questions about brake bleeding
>>>> > >
>>>> > > HI Stuart.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On 4/11/17, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >> .... If you have to add more when you crack the cap you'll bubble
>>>> air
>>>> > >> into the fluid remaining and will need to wait several hours or
>>>> toss it.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I'm not familiar with the Motive pressure bleeder.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Neil n
>>>> >
>>>> > VE7TBN
>>>> >
>>>> > 1988 Westy 50º ABA swap: https://tinyurl.com/yap5hpwt
>>>> >
>>>> > 1981 Westy 15º ABA swap: https://tinyurl.com/y9n4xob8
>>>> >
>>>> > VAG Gas Engine Swap Group <http://tinyurl.com/khalbay>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
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