Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 22:19:43 -0600
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From: VW Vanagon <t3vanagon@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Heads-Up - Potential Odometer Fraud
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I would agree, to an extent.
I would argue however, that previous maintenance and handling is the best
indicators of current condition.
An old, inoperable odo that petered-out on its own is one thing, but if
it's clear that the P.O. has repeatedly manipulated the odometer and rolled
it back, I take that as an indicator that they didn't handle the
vehicle properly.
And if they very clearly lie about it and deflect when asked, that brings
everything else they've said about it into question.
This is especially true when they can't speak to *any* engine maintenance
and repeatedly give different figures in the same conversation.
And there's potentially a 6-figure mileage discrepancy.
On a rental van.
And based on what I can tell, it's been driven the sum total of one mile in
over a year. . .
Like I said, that wasn't the ONLY issue.
There were red flags all over the place....
On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 8:39 PM Tom Hargrave <thargrav@hiwaay.net> wrote:
> These vans are so old that the odometer no longer matters.
>
> All that matters is condition.
>
> Thanks, Tom Hargrave
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> Subject: Heads-Up - Potential Odometer Fraud
>
> Howdy all-
> I'm in the process of finding an 86+ Westy to start taking my family on
> some Montana adventures.
> (side note: if you have a lead on a solid one, hit me up).
>
> In the process of the search, I came across a listing for an '89 in Maui
> (turned out to be a damaged, spray painted and rust-eaten can on wheels)
> and that, in turn, turned me on to some folks down in CA who are selling
> the last few of their rental fleet.
>
> I texted back and forth with the seller last night and arranged for a
> video call today to check things out.
>
> Throughout the very short call, there were red flags *ALL OVER THE PLACE*!
>
> I won't go into the gory details, but I ran the CarFax report and
> immediately saw that the odometer has clearly been rolled back multiple
> times over the course of the past 10-14 years.
> I asked her about it, and got all kinds of excuses and reasons why it
> wasn't important.
>
> This will be my 3rd Vanagon, and with the previous two I learned to follow
> my gut and *always* to run a CarFax report!
>
> Moral of the story:
> THAT REPORT IS GOLD!
> GET IT EVERY TIME! :)
>
> The search goes on!
>
> -Drew
> Missoula, MT
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*Drew*
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Searching for our next Westy!
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