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Date:         Thu, 4 Jun 2020 17:27:31 -0700
Reply-To:     Edward Barger <edvbarger@YAHOO.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Edward Barger <edvbarger@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: ongoing problems with the list
Comments: To: Jim Arnott <jim@eoni.com>
In-Reply-To:  <42C24C2A-2533-40AE-B178-9375A3EC7C76@eoni.com>
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all e mails are addressed to vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM

I just today tried to use (listserv@gerry.vanagon.com) to try to see if I could solve the problem

but gerry comes back saying there in no Ed or Ed Barger

I used the list for a few years with edvbarger@mac.com Then was told this could be the problem so switched to edvbarger@yayoo.com did not seem to make a difference

I do not know where t go from here

ed

Edward V Barger edvbarger@yahoo.com 310 922 6251 “Age is an issue of mind over matter … If you don’t mind it doesn’t matter " Mark Twain

> On Jun 4, 2020, at 5:08 PM, Jim Arnott <jim@eoni.com> wrote: > > To where are you sending? It looks like you’re sending to the list server (listserv@gerry.vanagon.com). It should be addressed to vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com. > > > >> On Jun 4, 2020, at 2:40 PM, Edward Barger <edvbarger@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> Even like today I sent a post.. my own original no quoted stuff >> >> I did not go through the list to all looks like no one got it >> >> only folks that I ccd got it >> >> >> have tried to contact gerry to correct things but gerry says I do not exist yet I get every ones post but mine >> >> this is the reply >>> subscribe Ed Barger >> There is no ED list on this server. Try sending a "LIST" command to get a >> description of all the lists available from >> LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM. >> >> >> >> >> have no idea what to do now to resolve this >> >> help please >> >> >> ed >> >> >> Edward V Barger >> edvbarger@yahoo.com >> 310 922 6251 >> “Age is an issue of mind over matter … >> If you don’t mind it doesn’t matter " >> Mark Twain >> >> >> >> >>> On Jun 3, 2020, at 8:54 PM, Jim Arnott <jim@eoni.com> wrote: >>> >>> Try stripping the quoted text off. Your reply is significantly less than the quote. That’s probably what’s upsetting the server. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> >>>> On Jun 3, 2020, at 12:04 PM, Edward Barger <edvbarger@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> HI Jim >>>> >>>> For some time now nave not ben able to post or so it seems as I do not get a copy and no one seems to respond >>>> >>>> I did change from mac.com to yahoo.com just for this list but seemingly to no avail >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This what I got in return when I tried to post as a reply >>>> >>>> Any idea how to correct this I would like to get some help with a lighting situation >>>> >>>> >>>> thanks >>>> >>>> ed >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Your message is being returned to you unprocessed because it appears to have >>>> already been distributed to the vanagon list. That is, a message with identical >>>> text (but possibly with different mail headers) has been posted to the list >>>> recently, either by you or by someone else. If you have a good reason to resend >>>> this message to the list (for instance because you have been notified of a >>>> hardware failure with loss of data), please alter the text of the message in >>>> some way and resend it to the list. Note that altering the "Subject:" line or >>>> adding blank lines at the top or bottom of the message is not sufficient; you >>>> should instead add a sentence or two at the top explaining why you are >>>> resending the message, so that the other subscribers understand why they are >>>> getting two copies of the same message. >>>> >>>> ------------------------ Rejected message (113 lines) ------------------------- >>>> Return-Path: <EDVBARGER@YAHOO.COM> >>>> Received: from sonic302-3.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com by gerry.vanagon.com (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0000101B@gerry.vanagon.com>; 24 May 2020 18:16:11 -0400 >>>> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1590358568; bh=YEK4xzwZ9bvd9hohGk+blsSEoQ2mivf/vlD3lHGPrSU=; h=From:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:Cc:To:References:From:Subject; b=HPL9uPIABQzlVJb2XBACJNpp7Z3jx2250ZrzRB+h/4t/lQ9UJB5vqcdw2m045BTfFoni6F9Ol64n+2C0UGkGnOzE6h0srvlyIEpPeNrnu92RtsY8BVgfIIAgO2V2R+0lH6dyZyqLGyU231cvZZ0l72+83BzXcxVMXJTCWGw/FExWmBhMJO4og7dOdS0KyoJDd8NfbVcQc4CMvgRViWY25S3rvi+l78Dg831Jir+KcwwHazP69lRmuEFSM6tNFBGs1MPapz++ar4sfOV9hSO7Z1+NzqC3d/kjV0UFnfaaKLn3BHw1P2Hro3S4uUD0Y7uFruJGN7J+3nTJmJszx34ugQ== >>>> X-YMail-OSG: UoTbd5wVM1k31qqE.ihIKSUDHhi5.AAHtDNSObukQRli0tzRWkH7WTgPR3PL3R5 >>>> c8CqYezvCDtfBrLdGQUxQe0XZrHbe8WwGRQT_YHz85eRv9ADKRGhjXNLX57VBeFj2Ud.1JLRu8J9 >>>> xHVNUm2M3lHIokQ8ytbr08X4jVnZlrwe2zAVkjjXhU0SQOkjNJ2SA.a0pjTPhzICTBB5IMwSboZY >>>> kye_nxvIAbuP79.Qa9tph5HKs73uGIGswYSvjuYnT6va5eBtu3w.a56nUtWyWszHy1jOAeRHc64P >>>> kyZkovp0.9lLNfHMgzYUq.z93rCKlnjI1DuCyDU5wQCJbmzCGf_jSSZBr3SJFVsW3xaXywI1MdXT >>>> K_p7wYTgZ3ygOlPiNw4g1GMnkQvcOl80L.CH_PR3EPZW_v0DUk9_rlc2pcAR2CeLOU_.qMfNsnUG >>>> U6jDp._WPg3hVuatvqiOqqKSXZeDMpry9hJuQCx27yroi56vZ2iTZAIG3HYpwjoDgCJKyL348z_v >>>> TBwaOOKqjOzaixkaYFr96lH2HBtpfxs5ACDzdbr4OImlS5X9P2ij4ryVRgX7oInWZS_uydQ.OJdA >>>> NW.V2qjuYbZvNR4k7Ydf.It5FYfzELzP2AJoYynUkMvk4KYu7r0q1KPvyfS_geFRK_awBrAWpgTy >>>> om5tqKJRru.CfjFi2BcOsVwvffFX1Du2B8TYFa59eN71r9gNXMCp9_PA.vZ3V4N5V0AzeaIHPbji >>>> cM2EurJ.6bg.CUDWPRjej77s7MZrNQRDawXBXUhQSp6MG1yIU7V2YdDwCA15TMPv9uTwRcUXLHf5 >>>> bE1P9lOpRaunpymL6UIUboDCe6l3kLb30ieQoQSzPqvSQpnD4YkaJIzqRVPIUJRYrMHwfViUMz4i >>>> P728VTuUM8avl2tUNFAEpXa4_CVqSxevCDWhvvhNrBO0_bPHTXWJyJ_NZI2IrSfNun0QSxUsoDwr >>>> XONZun0ezEC9u52MiqwChRRZk2IQ3tixThDuOKZujaiE.p5rJTLS6G.6szaEl5nrelcoIdLhmY.s >>>> 3zi221GW8qDYI0maDROGdFeG7gwOlLGVMZ3W.G.FGdSpWik_RxMrB.NlNdYex0KWL9QuEAlKnhyF >>>> 1oorZTbEWMXYaFtIwDwwEA3IpIovjKhAaPLbjec213g7uSlDKRgb8oPycOoe.emrZKMO0aaub4Ip >>>> TqVrxMwADpBSB_pu8Yl1mOy7DsSsVGAKEvvlYKGKI0jLpJTy41JI9rv9BeMAQ_asp9DA.vK.0Z5V >>>> dY33miJalmzaYhsp0IeqWq5qyxUW9z7HC5h2bI6mEfUcZuN2Ab2GMPUxObwcy5tIEbtw0Xy0ah2n >>>> v0sO7mRgdfqnx.NsRt8HOc8q1nC88S2rS0fk.TJGz39EoKof7g3REdqZA3JZvgBe4TI2lNNmBXBA >>>> WYM9rTyDlzFiy1wf2uqr2PhqrtXKPhJk3Q8gTQptN >>>> Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic302.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sun, 24 May 2020 22:16:08 +0000 >>>> Received: by smtp431.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 849c2dcd436941c8eb708ffe3ef42bf4; >>>> Sun, 24 May 2020 22:16:05 +0000 (UTC) >>>> From: Edward Barger <edvbarger@yahoo.com> >>>> Message-Id: <3186A2CE-C85F-4B50-AF36-EAC90512FDE6@yahoo.com> >>>> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.5\)) >>>> Subject: Re: [VANAGON] Rodents >>>> Date: Sun, 24 May 2020 15:16:12 -0700 >>>> In-Reply-To: <CAB2Rwfg_L9jdy-hZyhYVUR9EtiurBxg+5sb_5tmO6zzuv0UPeQ@mail.gmail.com> >>>> Cc: "vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com" <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> >>>> To: Neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM> >>>> References: <MWHPR22MB0128F6EC2E111B5533DE50CCBAB50@MWHPR22MB0128.namprd22.prod.outlook.com> >>>> <CAKbau50ikJWbxyrwSS7fEC+xinysmvnEtf49pQEsiB+0tMr+rA@mail.gmail.com> >>>> <1FC35CB4-33A5-4C46-A6D9-6DAA721C8E92@yahoo.com> >>>> <04a501d631e4$8aec3a10$a0c4ae30$@hiwaay.net> >>>> <86611AF4-3404-4ADD-B06C-A8E5075F8FBE@gmail.com> >>>> <CAB2Rwfg_L9jdy-hZyhYVUR9EtiurBxg+5sb_5tmO6zzuv0UPeQ@mail.gmail.com> >>>> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.5) >>>> Content-Length: 6861 >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>> >>>> With an actual house I leaned to use coarse steel wool in the cracks / = >>>> hole =E2=80=A6 mice nor rats would chew through that=20 >>>> >>>> ed >>>> >>>> >>>> Edward V Barger >>>> edvbarger@yahoo.com=20 >>>> 310 922 6251 >>>> =E2=80=9CAge is an issue of mind over matter =E2=80=A6 >>>> If you don=E2=80=99t mind it doesn=E2=80=99t matter " >>>> Mark Twain >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On May 24, 2020, at 11:58 AM, Neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM> wrote: >>>>> =20 >>>>> Reading online, it seems that mice, other rodents, leave and follow >>>>> trails of their own urine and fecal matter. They may also follow same >>>>> from other mice. >>>>> =20 >>>>> Were application of this type of product even a real deterrent, you'd >>>>> think some enterprising person would've come up with a spray >>>>> containing a scent like peppermint and non scented equivalent to a >>>>> Fluid Film type product that would not harm or degrade tire compounds. >>>>> It would likely only be of use when a vehicle is in storage or camped >>>>> in a spot for more than a couple days though. >>>>> =20 >>>>> But then I'm sure mice/rodents use other senses to guide themselves to >>>>> a point of entry. >>>>> =20 >>>>> Neil. >>>>> =20 >>>>> On 5/24/20, Theodore Hoekman <thoekman@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> =20 >>>>>> Several years ago camping in my 82 Westfalia, spotted a mouse who had >>>>>> entered scurrying in the front passenger footwell. Thinking of being = >>>> humane >>>>>> opened the door and invited it back outside. As I watched it = >>>> scurried back >>>>>> to the front tire up over the top and in a minute appeared again on = >>>> the >>>>>> inside. This time the little bugger was terminated with prejudice. >>>>>> =20 >>>>>> Ted >>>>>> =20 >>>>>> Theodore Hoekman >>>>>> thoekman@gmail.com >>>>>> 19 York St. >>>>>> Newbury, ON N0L 1Z0 >>>>>> (519)719-0342 >>>>>> Blog:http://Tedspassivesolarhouse.wordpress.com >>>>>> =20 >>>>> =20 >>>>> =20 >>>>> --=20 >>>>> Neil n >>>>> =20 >>>>> VE7TBN >>>>> =20 >>>>> 1988 Westy 50=C2=BA ABA swap: https://tinyurl.com/yap5hpwt >>>>> =20 >>>>> 1981 Westy 15=C2=BA ABA swap: https://tinyurl.com/y9n4xob8 >>>>> =20 >>>>> VAG Gas Engine Swap Group <http://tinyurl.com/khalbay> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Edward V Barger >>>> edvbarger@yahoo.com >>>> 310 922 6251 >>>> “Age is an issue of mind over matter … >>>> If you don’t mind it doesn’t matter " >>>> Mark Twain >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >


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