Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2020 13:25:13 -0400
Reply-To: "John H. Lauterbach" <john@JHL.MGACOXMAIL.COM>
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From: "John H. Lauterbach" <john@JHL.MGACOXMAIL.COM>
Organization: Lauterbach & Associates, LLC
Subject: Re: Shippers
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Hello Dennis. Driver had my Vanagon ready to back off the van when I got there. The other
vehicles he was hauling were all high-priced luxury cars. As my Vanagon came from Chicago and the
previous owner hadn't used it in several years, there was considerable rust damage, and all the
brake lines, etc., etc., had to get replaced as well as the power steering rack. That work was
done by European Auto Clinic in Macon,
In any case, if I had to do it over again, I would use a covered hauler and Montway, especially if
I could get the same driver. John
On Sat, 2020-06-20 at 16:47 +0000, Dennis Haynes wrote:
> Even in a covered hauler the vehicle still has to somehow get secured. The best haulers that move
> valuable vehicles know what they are doing including using tire/wheel tie downs.
> Dennis
>
>
> From: VW Vanagon <t3vanagon@gmail.com>Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2020 12:39 PMTo: Dennis Haynes <
> d23haynes57@hotmail.com>Subject: Re: Shippers
> That's great perspective that I hadn't considered.I shipped my last one in a covered hauler, so
> didn't have those issues.Thanks!
> On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 9:50 AM Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com<mailto:
> d23haynes57@hotmail.com>> wrote:One thing to consider is what happens to the under carriage of a
> van when transported. You want some pictures before pick and at delivery. It is common for tie
> down hooks to damage the frame members up front or even suspension pieces. My favorite is when a
> chain is hoked to the 2 tie downs at the rear and then pulled from the middle. Rare do I see a
> Vanagon that does not have signs of towing damage.
> Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----From: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com<mailto:
> vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>> On Behalf Of kenneth wilford (Van-Again)Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2020
> 10:04 AMTo: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM<mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>Subject: Re: Shippers
> I use uship.com<
> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fuship.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce6a5131988e34e10418408d8153869b2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637282679313489958&sdata=H4xr%2FkE7HWTCxiXrXbS2uewJuhSm%2BtPXAG0BTNqZpTs%3D&reserved=0
> >
> Find a local reputable Vanagon friendly repair shop or expert who is neutral to inspect the van
> for you.
> Ken
> On Sat, Jun 20, 2020, 2:25 AM Vanagon Man <t3vanagon@gmail.com<mailto:t3vanagon@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> > Awesome insight!Thanks so much for that, Ron.
> >
> > > On Jun 19, 2020, at 8:49 PM, The Bus Depot <vanagon@busdepot.com<mailto:vanagon@busdepot.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Haven’t had one shipped since ‘06.Who should I trust? Or maybemore importantly, who should
> > > > I avoid?
> > >
> > > Decades ago (wow, am I that old?) I used to buy Buses in Californiathat
> > had solid bodies but wouldn't pass smog, and local rustbuckets withstrong engines, and make one
> > good Bus out of the two. I used theprofit I made to seed the Bus Depot. It's been a long time
> > since Itransported vehicles regularly, but the basic process hasn't changed.
> > > Some companies you contact have their own drivers, but many are brokers.
> > Often even with their markup you can get a better price with a broker.The broker quotes you a
> > price with a deposit due up front and thebalance paid upon delivery. The deposit is his
> > commission; the balancegoes to the driver (or company) that actually does the haul. Oncethey
> > quote you they post the job onto a national online bulletin boardand try to get someone to take
> > it for that price. So if they quote you$1000 with $200 of it due up front, they're offering
> > $800 on theboard. This is where it becomes a negotiating game. The broker can go one of three
> > ways:
> > > 1) Be realistic and honest about what they think they can get adriver
> > to do the haul for, tack on their profit, and quote you that price. Itmay not be the absolute
> > lowest price but it's most likely to actually occur.From my limited recent experience
> > eshiptransport.com<
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> > > works that way.
> > > 2) Quote a lowball price with quick pickup, realistic or not, torope
> > you in ("I have a driver who can come tomorrow for $500") and hopethey get lucky and find a
> > driver "deadheading" (traveling with anempty trailer on the way to a pickup) who will do the
> > job for almostnothing so they can honor that quote. If they don't, then come theexcuses and the
> > price increases as they incrementally up their offeron the board until a driver bites. I dealt
> > with shipwit.com<
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> > > twice andmy gut feeling is that this is how he operates. That being said, thefinal prices I
> > paid (though higher than the initial quotes) were stilllower than anyone else I found. Being
> > wise to the game, I'd use himagain but take the initial quote with a very large grain of salt.
> > > 3) Quote high and hope you are not price sensitive. If you bite,both
> > the broker and the driver make out very well. I didn't bother withthese brokers as my pockets
> > aren't deep enough.
> > > The one thing you don't want to do is talk to multiple brokers, asthey
> > will each put it on the board and you are effectively competing withyourself. If a driver sees
> > the same job on the board numerous timeswith various brokers' names attached, needless to say
> > he'll respond tothe broker who is offering the highest price, so that's what you'll pay.
> > > Ron SalmonThe Bus Depothttps://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww
> > > .busdepot.com<
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>
> --DrewMissoula, MT
> Searching for our next Westy!
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