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Date:         Wed, 1 Jul 2020 19:32:24 -0700
Reply-To:     David McNeely <davmcneely40@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         David McNeely <davmcneely40@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Changing oil: Hot, Lukewarm, or Cold
Comments: To: Richard Koerner <rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net>
In-Reply-To:  <1746137254.1039815.1593654047794@mail.yahoo.com>
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Always have wanted the oil reasonably hot, but not scalding. Maybe as you guys say, warm, might be better. I use nitrile gloves, like real techs do, to protect myself, though I used to just let it get all over my hand. And even though the Waterboxer filter is at an angle, I still make a mess. But it is better than my Toyota Prius, with the filter up between other parts in an area where my hand just barely fits. It would be ok on a lift, but the best I can do is to raise the vehicle 1&7/8" with a timber. Lets me fit under, but still cumbersome. The camper is wonderful in that regard, with the high clearance and easy access!

Related, slightly: Is it ok to mix synthetic and conventional oils? I used to see oils that claimed to be half and half, and wondered if I might get by with that, but home mixed.

mcneely

On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 6:41 PM Richard Koerner <rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Yeah, warm in my opinion is the way to go. Gets whatever crap that has > missed oil filter is now in suspension, oil viscosity is reasonable for > draining, oil temp is not too high for burning hand yet alone those nearby > exhaust manifolds. > > Thanks for considering and comments. I will adjust my oil change regime. > More pleasant and just as effective. I've kinda know this all along. Was > just being OCD. > > Rich > > On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 6:01:18 PM PDT, Eric Caron < > ericcaron96@comcast.net> wrote: > > Same here, > > no reason to get hurt for an oil change. I just do it warm. With > my oil cooler I’m pretty sure I can’t get it all out anyway. I get most of > it out and refresh with new oil. I have the oil cooler up front with the > radiator. > > Eric Caron > > > > On Jul 1, 2020, at 8:56 PM, Dan N <dn92610@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > > > > I change the oil not too hot and not too cold... meaning I let the hot go > > down for at least 30 minutes then change the oil... obviously changing > the > > oil cold will take a lot of time to completely drain it... > > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 5:24 PM Richard Koerner <rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net> > > wrote: > > > >> Of course....Gerry stripped the link... But it is at site called " > >> mechanics.stackexchange.com" > >> > >> Sheesh...this is already too much work. Carry on. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 5:16:05 PM PDT, Richard Koerner < > >> rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >> > >> This is kind of one of those COVID-19 questions out of boredom; but > >> there may be some merit in discussion. > >> > >> For my whole life, I have always changed my oil with it super Hot. It > >> wasn't too bad with the angled oil filter on a Wasserboxer; with the > Subie > >> motor with a vertical filter orientation, I invariably have issue of hot > >> oil on cold hand. I've taken to sacrificing on old leather glove on > left > >> hand....but it's always a mess when I loosen oil filter to drop it down > >> into plastic pan. And its always super hot. Even putting drain plug > back > >> in, that's hot too. I'm always in a hurry. > >> > >> Believe it or not, there is some discussion about this: What happens > if I > >> change the oil when the engine is cold? > >> > >> | | | > >> What happens if I change the oil when t... > >> | > >> > >> > >> > >> Yeah, I got my oil changed this afternoon, and I've done it hundreds of > >> times including some sketchy places and circumstances over the last 45 > >> years. But, it got me thinking there might be a better way. A "cooler" > >> way. > >> > >> So, what do you guys think? Check out the link I added above. > >> Interesting info. Feel free to pass on this one. > >> > >> Rich > >> > >> San Diego > >> > >> > >> >


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