Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 02:05:18 +0000
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From: Douglas Toomey <drt@UOREGON.EDU>
Subject: Re: Logging Roads and Trailers
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Want to add my two cents to an interesting convo. We send crew into rural Oregon to service seismic and fire camera sites routinely. We require that we all know the rules, which are:
* have a cb radio
* call out your location at mile markers; look for them, if it is active logging, they are marked
* when calling out, describe vehicle and location by the mile
* drive exceedingly defensively
* downhill trucks obviously are going to take the right of way, and as far as we are concerned, they get it uphill too
When it comes to adventuring in the van, I am keenly aware of logging and avoid active routes at all costs. Be careful out there!
On Jul 21, 2020, at 11:41 AM, David Boan <dboan@OUTLOOK.COM<mailto:dboan@OUTLOOK.COM>> wrote:
Just to add a final point to the conversation, if there is a logging road setup specifically for logging, and the logging operation is active, I stay off that road. I have had experience mixing with logging trucks in the Northwest and prefer to avoid that experience in the future.
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From: Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@gmail.com<mailto:rogerwhitt1@gmail.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 10:01 AM
To: David Boan <dboan@outlook.com<mailto:dboan@outlook.com>>
Cc: Vanagon <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com<mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>>
Subject: Re: Logging Roads and Trailers
USFSR may have different rules than Canada - and maybe even British Columbia is an outlier with Logging road regs and ownership -
Thanks David for the emphasis on USFSR -
On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 8:08 PM David Boan <dboan@outlook.com<mailto:dboan@outlook.com><mailto:dboan@outlook.com>> wrote:
When I read the original request for comments I took "logging roads" as a term some people use for forest service roads in the US. Originally created to facilitate logging access, these roads (380,00 miles of them) are used by both logging trucks and recreational vehicles. USDA data reports that there are 1.7 million recreational vehicles on these roads daily, compared to 15,000 logging trucks. There are local exceptions for use, including road closures for various reasons, so users do need to watch postings and beware of their setting. That said, these are public roads and recreational users should never be discouraged from using them.
You may also be interested in the maps and a great app that is available describing all USFS roads, their conditions and advisories on use. Be informed, be prepared, and enjoy yourself. See fs.usda.gov<http://fs.usda.gov><https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://fs.usda.gov__;!!C5qS4YX3!VU1REZsoN-j0dkHNnIe-90BP3usqIuLVO4sPbVG53FiU9M674drnJHn_Y4snxg$ >
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