Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 11:32:36 -0700
Reply-To: OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET>
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From: OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: GoWesty Engine Management system
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Neil
It wouldn't surprise Me if the software that You hope for is out there
but it remains to reported just what all info the GW EFI is capable of
providing ~
It Is a Very Well Designed & Developed piece of Improvement Gear
for our H2OBoxer Vanagons which appears to make available not only some
much needed HP & MsPG but IMHO has the potential of adding some Miles
to a H2OBxrs Life via the Added Efficiency,, But it is no doubt a bit too pricey
for most of Us to be able to justify ~
There are a couple of other items available that are also Quite Capable of
adding HP & MsPG / Efficiency while being Much more affordable & considerably
easier to install > Marco Mansi Injectors & 1.3 Ratio Rocker Arms ~
Check'm out @ >> https://mansispeed.com/
On 6 Nov , 2020, at 8:45 PM, Neil N wrote:
> Right on DeanB.
>
> I'm only somewhat familiar with EFI, specifically Bosch Motronic 2.9
> (OBD1) but assumed that like it, there would be software available for
> OBD2 that could glean (and likely log) more data than a standard OBD2
> checker or the like. Especially since OBD2 is much more standardized
> than OBD1.
>
> For the average end user, logging data real time for things like the
> idle control valve, throttle angle, timing etc. may be of little to no
> use and possibly only serve to push them towards the wrong diagnostics
> "rabbit hole".
>
> Neil.
>
> On 11/6/20, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Neil
>>
>> 1 would like to think that most all normal data made available via OBD2
>>
>> would be available from this GoWesty EFI Management System,, But, the info
>>
>> that is viewable via the ScanGauge that GW provides with the kit doesn't
>> seam
>>
>> to be all the same info that is available via an OTC ScanGauge like the 1 I
>> have
>>
>> on My VDubaru, which makes it appear as though GW has some how loaded the
>>
>> provided SG with a Proprietary Program that may only be capable of providing
>> a
>>
>> limited amount of data &/Or the ECU that GW uses in this Kit may only
>> provide
>>
>> info that GW deems important ~
>>
>> The GW EFI that I have installed belongs to a Friend Who lives 60Mi's away
>>
>> so I don't have the sort of access to it that would allow Me to do a lot of
>> on going
>>
>> testing along those lines ~
>>
>> ORR ~ DeanB
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6 Nov , 2020, at 6:52 PM, Neil N wrote:
>>
>>> Dennis and OlRivrRat
>>>
>>> Sorry. I misunderstood. Using a MAF type device and TPS etc makes far
>>> more sense.
>>>
>>> Having access to information like idle valve duty cycle can be quite
>>> handy. Especially if it can be logged, which I'd assume is possible
>>> with the right software and laptop.
>>>
>>> Neil.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/6/20, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The GW EFI does not use the original airflow meter. That gets replaced
>>>> with
>>>> a really cool adapter and hot wire inline sensor often called a whistle.
>>>> The
>>>> throttle body also gets replaced and a throttle position sensor is used,
>>>> not
>>>> just a switch.
>>>>
>>>> The scan gauge tool can display the throttle position and also the duty
>>>> cycle of the idle control valve.
>>>>
>>>> Dennis
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Neil N <musomuso@gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 12:44 PM
>>>> To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
>>>> Cc: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com
>>>> Subject: Re: GoWesty Engine Management system
>>>>
>>>
>>>> I find it interesting that GW was able to make an OBD2 system work with
>>>> the
>>>> older style PWM idle control valve and AFM.
>>>>
>>>> re: performance off idle at ~ 2000 RPM (and maybe fuel efficiency?), I'd
>>>> be
>>>> curious if using the OE WBX idle control valve and AFM on this GM type
>>>> engine management system, are significant factors. i.e. is the Delphi
>>>> ECU
>>>> normally used in an application(s) where *all* idle air is controlled by
>>>> the
>>>> idle control valve and throttle angle, engine load etc. is reported by a
>>>> typical TPS-MAF (or MAP) vs an AFM?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Neil n
>>>
>>> VE7TBN
>>>
>>> 1988 Westy 50º ABA swap: https://tinyurl.com/yap5hpwt
>>>
>>> 1981 Westy 15º ABA swap: https://tinyurl.com/y9n4xob8
>>>
>>> VAG Gas Engine Swap Group <http://tinyurl.com/khalbay>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Neil n
>
> VE7TBN
>
> 1988 Westy 50º ABA swap: https://tinyurl.com/yap5hpwt
>
> 1981 Westy 15º ABA swap: https://tinyurl.com/y9n4xob8
>
> VAG Gas Engine Swap Group <http://tinyurl.com/khalbay>
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