Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 17:48:26 -0600
Reply-To: Tom Hargrave <thargrav@HIWAAY.NET>
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From: Tom Hargrave <thargrav@HIWAAY.NET>
Subject: Re: Temporary Winter chassis treatment
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We've used the stuff. It works great as long as you also drill holes into and spray oil into all of the boxed-in areas like the rocker covers once a year. We used to use a garden sprayer for those areas.
My brother's girlfriend had a Pinto wagon. I think hers was a 1974 or maybe a 73, I don't remember. I changed out the clutch cable when it seized from rust and then one day she lost power steering when one end of the slave cylinder broke loose from the front sub-frame. I looked at reattaching it and discovered there was no front sub-frame left to attach to. That was in 1977.
Thanks, Tom Hargrave
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From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Jack R
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 4:23 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Temporary Winter chassis treatment
Michigan Based 84 Westy, spent its winters in Mexico, until I purchased it in 1987. It was a rust free delight.
Despite being garage kept, driving in the heavy salted roads in Michigan (many do not know that there are salt mines under Detroit), my 84 Westy was hit badly with rust issues.
After a full body restoration in 2006, it hasn't seen snow since, and has remained 98% rust free.
Speaking for Fords Rusting... my wife's first car was a 1976 Ford Pinto, which was purchased new, and we had grease treated using the Texaco formula.
It was the only Pinto on the road, 8 years later, that remained rust free!
https://www.texacolubricants.com/en_uk/home/products/rust-proof-compound-l.html
Best to "bottom blast" and wash frequently in the winter... I have a heated garage, which can be harder on a car, as the icy/salty slush can work its way easily into everything underbody, and through freeze/thaw cycles, it can tend to do much more.
Watch the weather closely, and only drive when dry and temps are staying above freezing.
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From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 1:53 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Temporary Winter chassis treatment
I'm from Western NY State. Back then the standing joke was 'At night, you can hear a Ford rust" and there was a lot of truth in that joke.
Any Ford built in the 60's to early 70s sold without Zebart treatment would rust to the point it would fail inspection for structural issues in three years. Some foolishly refused to pay for the undercoating process and they paid dearly later. A high school friend of mine, Kevin Snow, drove a rusty 1971 Mustang to school. You could lay on the ground, look up into the doors and see the window mechanisms. I lost a bowling ball through a hole in his trunk and that's with a trunk mounted gas tank. But the interior was nice....
But Ford just happened to be the worse. Anything else would last 2 - 4 more years! VW's would last 2 - 4 more years just like the rest but the heater would die after the second winter. The heater channels would pinhole and let all the heat out before it reached the front.
Even more recently it's standard to cut even a 2 year old exhaust systems off with a torch and brake or suspension work often starts with a torch. Most modern factory exhausts are stainless steel but none of the fasteners are stainless. Same goes for brake and suspension hardware. Anything with threads is a worthless corroded mess after two winters.
Things did get better in the 80s but if I had a Syncro I wouldn't expose it to that CRAP!
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From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Dan N
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 9:31 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Temporary Winter chassis treatment
oooh yes... how many gallons/pounds of fluid on the road by the way.. aha / On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 6:47 PM Mark Belanger <mbelanger@gmail.com> wrote:
> That is positively awful for the environment. Surely, there must be a
> better technique?
>
>
> -MB
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 6:45 PM Dan N <dn92610@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> An old recipe...
>> Back in the old days in Europe, they did this... 3 parts of engine
>> oil, one part of gasoline in a hand pump sprayer...
>> Wash under the van and spray generously... I never saw this practice
>> in the USA but I am doing this every winter for my vans.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 5:54 PM Chris S <szpejankowski@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I’m considering taking my Syncro to visit family in a few weeks in
>> > MI
>> and
>> > would love to take my Syncro to play around in snow. I live in GA
>> > so
>> it’s
>> > rust free. Has anyone done any temporary chassis treatment to
>> > lessen impact of salt? Oil bath?
>> >
>> > Chris
>> >
>> > Wysłane z iPhone'a
>>
>
>
> --
> ______________________________________________________________________
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> Mark Belanger - mbelanger@gmail.com
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