Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2021 23:14:24 -0500
Reply-To: KIM BRENNAN <kimbrennan@MAC.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: KIM BRENNAN <kimbrennan@MAC.COM>
Subject: Re: Search for tires
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Ah, you mentioned the Peloquin. My 91 non-GL Syncro has the Limited Slip Locking Differential in the rear. So equipped with snow tires, it’s pretty hardy in the winter. Of course, I also have disc brakes in the rear which was the primary reason for originally upgrading to 15” wheels. I’ve never really felt a need to go larger as I’ve been able to always find appropriately load rated tires for my fleet. I use this van mostly in the winter, so tend to keep winter tires on it year round. During warmer times, the Chevy Bolt gets most of my miles…until the VW ID Buzz becomes available.
> On Feb 12, 2021, at 5:07 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> You pulled on the thread! On a Friday afternoon no less. Tire talk weekend is coming.
> So anyway we have snow here on Long Island. And it is cold. More may be coming. So a few weeks ago I mentioned putting set of low cost "winter tires" on the 91 2wd, automatic. 225/55-17XL. For a short comparison I have a customers van here with that size tire, all terrain and running a Peloquin diff. Moving the 2 vans in the same driveway with a few inches snow and ice I have confirmed that winter tires are a much better investment than the Peloquin.
>
> Driving the van in this whether has shown these tires to work very well in snow and slush conditions. This van was also recently upgraded with the GoWesty brakes front and rear. I am amazed at how well these brakes are balanced. The van simply stops and steers as it should without the front wheels locking and sliding or the rears stepping sideways. The combo of tires and brakes has made this van quite capable for winter use.
>
> Dennis
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> On Behalf Of kimbrennan@mac.com
> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 4:15 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Search for tires
>
> You are making an assumption that I am looking for tires now. I am not. I posted originally to inform folk that HOW one searches for tires can make all the difference in your search results.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Feb 12, 2021, at 2:51 PM, Jack R <jack007@comcast.net> wrote:
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>> These are $97 each...
>> CONTINENTAL
>> VIKINGCONTACT 7Studless Ice & Snow
>>
>> Size: 205/65R15 99T XL
>> Style: Blackwall
>> Load Range: XL
>> Serv. Desc: 99T
>> UTQG: None
>> Severe Snow Service Rated
>>
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tirerack.com%2Ftires%2Ftires.jsp%3FtireMake%3DContinental%26tireModel%3DVikingContact%2B7%26partnum%3D065TR5VC7XL%26vehicleSearch%3Dfalse%26fromCompare1%3Dyes&data=04%7C01%7C%7C6b13fd17c6654e48414908d8cf9b58e3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637487613430997670%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=sfzFUqSxZh7G3GlIvdmJSfrHcxLCW7UWsNCKEpkXOsE%3D&reserved=0
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of kimbrennan@mac.com
>> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 2:41 PM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Re: Search for tires
>>
>> I have used the BFG ATs before. They are good on dirt and gravel. The Vredesteins are better on snow and ice.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Feb 12, 2021, at 2:25 PM, Dan N <dn92610@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> for Syncro I use BFG LT215/75R15 T/A Ko2 on 15" rims
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tirerack.com%2Ftires%2Ftires.jsp%3FtireMake%3DBFGoodrich%26tireModel%3DAll-Terrain%2BT%252FA%2BKO2&data=04%7C01%7C%7C6b13fd17c6654e48414908d8cf9b58e3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637487613431007660%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=2ZGjEnVZnLfL4kKKJu8Nm0bMCKl%2B6fW4qwxN1i2WQaE%3D&reserved=0
>>>
>>> and General Grabber A/TX LT27x8.5 R14 on 14" rims - on this tires they sizes for 14", 15", 16"
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tirerack.com%2Ftires%2Ftires.jsp%3FtireMake%3DGeneral%26tireModel%3DGrabber%2BA%252FTX&data=04%7C01%7C%7C6b13fd17c6654e48414908d8cf9b58e3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637487613431007660%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=6mxVnFRQnumYIx%2FXliwDoaZHeF6UmWgpsrnPHIeqkTg%3D&reserved=0
>>>
>>> and Cooper Discoverer STT Pro LT225/75R16 on 16" rims
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tirerack.com%2Ftires%2Ftires.jsp%3FtireMake%3DCooper%26tireModel%3DDiscoverer%2BSTT%2BPRO&data=04%7C01%7C%7C6b13fd17c6654e48414908d8cf9b58e3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637487613431007660%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=P0yeOdxf%2FnjsQHaPv6gcb4ZnX50eD3G0fQFfgj8mAp0%3D&reserved=0
>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 10:58 AM KIM BRENNAN <kimbrennan@mac.com> wrote:
>>>> I have a Syncro and I use it to haul stuff (with a trailer sometimes too). That’s a 16” tire, but I have 15” wheels. I tend to get Winter tires, as I’m in the mountains of WV, and good traction is vital, not just good to have. My driveway is 1.25 miles long, narrow, gravel, and icy in the winter. I was talking about tires that are load rated 100 or more, while your example is only load rated 97. My current Vredesteins are load rated 112, so I have no worries about carry a full load in the Vanagon.
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 12, 2021, at 1:50 PM, Jack R <jack007@COMCAST.NET> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> CONTINENTAL $121 each.
>>>>> TRUECONTACT TOURStandard Touring All-Season
>>>>>
>>>>> Size: 215/55R16 97H XL
>>>>> Style: Blackwall
>>>>> Eco Focus: EcoPlus+Technology
>>>>> Load Range: XL
>>>>> Serv. Desc: 97H
>>>>> UTQG: 800 A A
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of KIM BRENNAN
>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 1:30 PM
>>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>>> Subject: Search for tires
>>>>>
>>>>> So, the other day, instead of searching tire sites for vanagon tires…I searched for cargo van tires. Lots more choices than I expected. And most are load 100 rated (or better). Just something for folk to consider when looking for tires the next time. I still can’t get my preferred brand/tire in the USA (Vredestein Winter Comtrac 2), unless I go via eBay from Italy and pay through the nose, but Nokian has a similar winter tire that is available. Not the 225/70R15 size, but the 215/75R15, which is acceptable. My current Vredesteins are still good for this winter, and probably through next summer…but for next winter I’ll have to be prepared. ==
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