Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2021 09:36:53 -0500
Reply-To: Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Question about hard start relay
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I reinstalled my Jay Brown relay, new Kostal switch and then cleaned all grounds between the battery and the transmission mount. We’ll see how that goes, it certainly can’t hurt. As for the observation that the relay is another point of failure, I have experience more failure from the original wiring over the lives of the multiple vans I have driven than I would ever expect from a quality relay. And like everything else I do on my cars, the modification is easily reversible if needed.
Jim
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> On Jun 20, 2021, at 3:58 PM, Richard Koerner <rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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> I still have the hard start relay kit in plastic bag, and a spare Ignition Switch. I carry both; they are small. Should the need arise someday on some distant roadtrip, I am prepared. For now, Karl's adapter plate and the recommended Bosch starter motor are the bomb. Solid. Very impressive.
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> I do have the Audiovox CCS-100 cruise control. Totally love. Not available anymore. But I love that thing so much, I was able to find one on eBay; currently on shelf in garage; maybe will get utilized somewhere down the road. Insurance if current CCS-100 fails, totally worth it to me. Rock solid performance meanwhile; no tired ankle, instant on and holds speed excellently.
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> On Saturday, June 19, 2021, 7:29:24 PM PDT, OlRivrRat <olrivrrat@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Personally,, I Am A Huge Fan of JBrowns Relays & in light of the fact that He recommends not using
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> His HardStart Kit if a GW GearReduction Starter is installed I would Highly Recommend Replacing the GWGRS with
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> “ commonly available, powerful (1.8~2.0 kw) and reliable starter from the 1996 - 2003 manual-trans VW TDI (diesel) cars “
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> Using the Adapter from > http://westyventures.com/parts.html <http://westyventures.com/parts.html>
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> & This Starter > https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C10SN3I?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share <https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C10SN3I?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share>
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> & JBrowns HardStart/SwitchSaver Relays ~
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> The length of time that Current is being be passed through the Igni’ Switch to the Starter is not really the important factor,,
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> It’s the amount of Current being Conducted by the Contacts & the destruction that happens Each & Every Time that those Switch
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> Contacts Make Contact ~ Also, in a Low Battery situation, more power can be available for the Starter Motor because Less Power
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> is needed for the Starter Solenoid due to the Reduced Distance & Cleaner Circuit that that power has to travel ~
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>> On 19 Jun , 2021, at 6:35 PM, Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Thanks. That is exactly why I asked the question.
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>> Jim
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> On Jun 19, 2021, at 4:07 PM, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@comcast.net <mailto:OlRivrRat@comcast.net>> wrote:
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>>> From J Browns WebSite >
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>>> “ ** Important installation notes: The hard start relay will not function properly in 1986-1991 Vanagon's with both Automatic Transmission and Factory Cruise Control due to a relay conflict with the cruise control system. If your van only has either an Automatic Transmission or Factory Cruise Control, the relay will function properly.
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>>> It has come to my attention recently that running a hard start relay with the GoWesty Auxiliary Battery Kit or the GoWesty Gear Reduction Starter may result in complications where the starter will continue to spin after releasing the key from the ON position. If you have either of these products installed in your van, the use of the hard start relay is not recommended and must be considered as completely at the risk of the installer. "
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