Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2021 13:50:45 +0000
Reply-To: Douglas Toomey <drt@UOREGON.EDU>
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From: Douglas Toomey <drt@UOREGON.EDU>
Subject: Re: Starter question
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A brief update on the starter and closure.
Thanks, Dennis, for the suggestion of buying the Premier Gear starter (link below). Nice price, direct fit, works well. Now a really peppy start! I did diagnose that I had 12V from battery and on the ignition circuit, so the problem was definitely the starter/solenoid.
The removal and install, done in driveway without lift, went well. Removed air filter box and throttle body to get at some items from above, then did most of the work from below. Removing the old copper bushing was a challenge; used a 12x1.5 tap to back it out but was not sure that was the correct approach.
Back on the road!
https://www.amazon.com/Premier-Gear-PG-17066-Professional-Starter/dp/B00KL51S6O/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=vanagon+starter&qid=1625611715&sr=8-4
Doug
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>> On Jul 6, 2021, at 3:55 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
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>> If you think you need a starter consider this one. Since you say you can push start it I'm assuming a manual trans.
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.amazon.com/Premier-Gear-PG-17066-Professional-Starter/dp/B00KL51S6O/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=vanagon*starter&qid=1625611715&sr=8-4__;Kw!!C5qS4YX3!W_cFHYrBvPuPqWOzI6ewDqbBWNx8e4_uJTjDv071T6cNBS3LSTy1pkwPi5ywwg$
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>> This starter for the money simply works, and works well. No more adding relays or slow cranking or other nonsense. No adapters needed.
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>> As for trouble shooting you need to look at the symptoms to determine if the problem is the solenoid or motor itself. If the solenoid is clicking you are telling it to go. It could be the resistance of the solenoid circuit is too high for the solenoid to get the gear out and close the contacts for the motor. This is a very common Bosch failure. Again, for under $100 make the uncertainty disappear.
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>> Dennis
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> On Behalf Of Douglas Toomey
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 5:01 PM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Starter question
>>
>> All,
>>
>> The van developed a starting problem over the past couple of days. The battery is fully charged, newish, and fine. Also tried jumping the car; no go. I can push start it. Tested a second ignition switch. Both the original and the spare cause an audible clicking of the starter motor.
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>> Current symptoms: Turn key over, hear fuel pump. Move key to start, hear clicking of starter motor
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>> Questions:
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>> 1) The Bentley shows taking the starter apart to clean commutator. Is that recommended?
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>> 2) How can I be sure it is starter? Can it be the solenoid?
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>> 3) Local shop what carries GoWesty parts is closed this week. Any suggestions on where to get a new starter motor and type?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Doug
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Prof. Douglas Toomey
Director, Oregon Hazards Lab
1272 Earth Sciences
University of Oregon
Eugene, OR 97403-1272
https://ohaz.uoregon.edu
https://blogs.uoregon.edu/dougtoomey/
http://geophysics.uoregon.edu
(541) 346 5576 (work)
(541) 632 2526 (mobile)
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