Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2021 12:40:54 -0500
Reply-To: Jeff Palmer <w.jeff.palmer@ICLOUD.COM>
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From: Jeff Palmer <w.jeff.palmer@ICLOUD.COM>
Subject: Re: dometic replacement
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No offence taken! Sorry if my tone was hostile :) I may need to use more emoticons in my messages :)
> On Sep 12, 2021, at 11:33 AM, David McNeely <davmcneely40@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> Didn't mean to be calling anyone out for being soft, just relating my preferences. I apologize for offending. Dave
>
> On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 9:02 PM Jeff Palmer <w.jeff.palmer@icloud.com <mailto:w.jeff.palmer@icloud.com>> wrote:
> Well, for starters, I’ve been told that divorces can be expensive …
>
> Seriously, there was a time in my life where I had the time and opportunity to go wherever and whenever I wanted. That time has passed. I think you both live in places where you can access remote areas more easily. In Canada you cant generally camp on Crown land if you’re not in a proper campground (Alistair you follow logging roads, right?) and ever since I survived the widowmaker at the ripe old age of 42 I like to stay within cell phone range. If it happened again at least my kids can call 911.
>
> Ironically I find that less serviced campgrounds are often noisy, full of big units with generators. And BLM lands have their own issues as the many Facebook pages dedicated to boondocking will attest.
>
> I chuckled a bit McNeeley as you called me out for being soft. My buddies who tent camp off grid or build igloos on Lake Winnipeg in February would say the same about you in your swishy van. We all have our tolerance level for roughing it and these things change. Dennis has a Class A RV I believe that he takes on longer trips - given the option I’m sure my wife would prefer to travel with him. Unless you have your own show on the Outdoor Life Network we are all pretty much in the same boat er… van.
>
> Jeff
> 85 Westfalia whose amenities work the same on power or propane.
>
> >
> > Don't mean to sound snotty, either. But, what's the point of "camping" if
> > there is power, piped water, and so on? I purposely go to places without
> > those things, because others don't. I do go to USFS and BLM campgrounds,
> > but purposely choose ones without water and power when I do. If I want
> > amenities, I can go to a hotel. mcneely
> >
> >> On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 7:53 PM Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca <mailto:albell@shaw.ca>> wrote:
> >>
> >> I’m with you jeff on keeping the propane. Works fine most of the time up
> >> here in the great white ( dope slap me for implying Vancouver island
> >> anything like Winnipeg ).
> >>
> >> I just got pissed off this last trip and pulled trigger on the electric.
> >>
> >> Oh and we never camp, forgive me if this sounds snotty, places with power.
> >> Heck, we don’t even have cell coverage.
> >>
> >> Alistair
> >>
> >>> On Sep 11, 2021, at 7:46 PM, Jeff Palmer <w.jeff.palmer@icloud.com <mailto:w.jeff.palmer@icloud.com>>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thanks - I had no idea. Just assumed the venting would be somewhat
> >> flexible to accommodate different rv setups.
> >>>
> >>> I’m fine with my existing setup. It lights easy and stays lit. My van
> >> is white so stays pretty cool. I’m in Winnipeg so it gets as warm as 37/38C
> >> but average highs in the summer are about 26 I think. On warmer days I
> >> just make sure I can plug in.
> >>>
> >>> Jeff
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> On Sep 11, 2021, at 9:26 PM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca <mailto:albell@shaw.ca>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Dave,
> >>>>
> >>>> Many rvs have a separate chamber , box, vented outside , for propane
> >> combustion, heating and cooling.
> >>>>
> >>>> The vanagon a little different. Bit of a negative with the fins on back
> >> of fridge inside the van. Warming up the van.
> >>>>
> >>>> Alistair
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> On Sep 11, 2021, at 7:09 PM, David McNeely <davmcneely40@gmail.com <mailto:davmcneely40@gmail.com>>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dennis, are you saying that Dometic (or other absorption units for
> >> that
> >>>>> matter) do not have sealed combustion chamber and double flue like the
> >>>>> original one for our vans does? It seems that if they are intended
> >> for RV
> >>>>> installation they would have to have that. mcneely
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 10:00 AM Dennis Haynes <
> >> d23haynes57@hotmail.com <mailto:d23haynes57@hotmail.com>>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Most of these units cannot go into the Westy without some serious
> >>>>>> consideration for venting. In the RV world designed spaces the rear
> >> goes
> >>>>>> into a chimney type area completely separate from the living space
> >> for both
> >>>>>> heat dissipation and combustion air-exhaust for the propane. The Westy
> >>>>>> Fridge is unique with the sealed combustion chamber and direct to
> >> outside
> >>>>>> connection for combustion air and exhaust.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Dennis
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com <mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>> On Behalf Of
> >> Jeff
> >>>>>> Palmer
> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 10:58 PM
> >>>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: dometic replacement
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Yup 3 way. Or even propane only! Something like this?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dometic.com%2Fen-ca%2Foutdoor%2Fca%2Fproducts%2Ffood-and-beverage%2Frefrigerators%2Frv-refrigerators%2Fdometic-rm-2354-_-147206&data=04%7C01%7C%7C6ce27c33bdce4f24baec08d974cffba9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637669258913444682%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=VpdPfQUCjjAdCL41nix4M717pWv81hNaSRiIHAIBUVM%3D&reserved=0 <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dometic.com%2Fen-ca%2Foutdoor%2Fca%2Fproducts%2Ffood-and-beverage%2Frefrigerators%2Frv-refrigerators%2Fdometic-rm-2354-_-147206&data=04%7C01%7C%7C6ce27c33bdce4f24baec08d974cffba9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637669258913444682%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=VpdPfQUCjjAdCL41nix4M717pWv81hNaSRiIHAIBUVM%3D&reserved=0>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 9:44 PM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca <mailto:albell@shaw.ca>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Three way as in propane, dc, ac?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I seriously doubt any new ones are made in the form factor that
> >> will fit
> >>>>>> our vans.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Alistair
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 7:18 PM, Jeff Palmer <w.jeff.palmer@icloud.com <mailto:w.jeff.palmer@icloud.com>>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Has anyone ever found a three way replacement they’re happy with?
> >>>>>>>> Jeff
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 1:24 PM, Mike Miller <mwmiller6@ATT.NET <mailto:mwmiller6@ATT.NET>>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> All,
> >>>>>>>>> I'm really tired of fighting with my dometic, just about had it.
> >>>>>>>>> But I'd like to replace it with something that fits into the same
> >>>>>> space. It can be somewhat deeper but height and width should fit.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I've looked on line at several possibilities but mostly I can't get
> >>>>>> the exterior dimensions. Sellers either don't have contact info or
> >> when
> >>>>>> contacted don't have the information.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Anybody got ideas how to find the exterior dimensions of items?
> >>>>>>>>> m
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>
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