Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2021 08:34:43 -0700
Reply-To: Bruce Todd <beeceetee@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Bruce Todd <beeceetee@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Where we camp, was Re: dometic replacement
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That is the beauty of our small camping rigs - you can camp anywhere in
them if there is access to a site. They can be hooked up to water and
power if required, and if that what it takes to stay married or happy, and
they can be self sufficient otherwise not to mention good for stealth road
side rests.
BT
On Sunday, September 12, 2021, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
> I changed subject line. I’m trying to be an adult :+)
>
> Jeff, yes, we camp pretty well 99% of the time ( when camping on Vancouver
> island, different on mainland) off logging roads.
> We like a view , be nice to have a water source nearby for swimming, and
> most important … no one else around.
>
> But that’s just us. Good friend Simon isnt quite as keen on the places we
> go. He prefers formal campsites. We both have a great time at the places we
> choose.
>
> Oh, and I don’t mind if the van gets scratched by branches etc. It’s
> harder to be so cavalier if you have a nice paint job :-)
>
> There’s no right and wrong way of enjoying camping in our vans. If it’s
> fun, do it :-)
>
> Alistair
>
>
> > On Sep 11, 2021, at 9:02 PM, Jeff Palmer <w.jeff.palmer@icloud.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Well, for starters, I’ve been told that divorces can be expensive …
> >
> > Seriously, there was a time in my life where I had the time and
> opportunity to go wherever and whenever I wanted. That time has passed. I
> think you both live in places where you can access remote areas more
> easily. In Canada you cant generally camp on Crown land if you’re not in a
> proper campground (Alistair you follow logging roads, right?) and ever
> since I survived the widowmaker at the ripe old age of 42 I like to stay
> within cell phone range. If it happened again at least my kids can call
> 911.
> >
> > Ironically I find that less serviced campgrounds are often noisy, full
> of big units with generators. And BLM lands have their own issues as the
> many Facebook pages dedicated to boondocking will attest.
> >
> > I chuckled a bit McNeeley as you called me out for being soft. My
> buddies who tent camp off grid or build igloos on Lake Winnipeg in February
> would say the same about you in your swishy van. We all have our tolerance
> level for roughing it and these things change. Dennis has a Class A RV I
> believe that he takes on longer trips - given the option I’m sure my wife
> would prefer to travel with him. Unless you have your own show on the
> Outdoor Life Network we are all pretty much in the same boat er… van.
> >
> > Jeff
> > 85 Westfalia whose amenities work the same on power or propane.
> >
> >>
> >> Don't mean to sound snotty, either. But, what's the point of "camping"
> if
> >> there is power, piped water, and so on? I purposely go to places
> without
> >> those things, because others don't. I do go to USFS and BLM
> campgrounds,
> >> but purposely choose ones without water and power when I do. If I want
> >> amenities, I can go to a hotel. mcneely
> >>
> >>>> On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 7:53 PM Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I’m with you jeff on keeping the propane. Works fine most of the time
> up
> >>> here in the great white ( dope slap me for implying Vancouver island
> >>> anything like Winnipeg ).
> >>>
> >>> I just got pissed off this last trip and pulled trigger on the
> electric.
> >>>
> >>> Oh and we never camp, forgive me if this sounds snotty, places with
> power.
> >>> Heck, we don’t even have cell coverage.
> >>>
> >>> Alistair
> >>>
> >>>> On Sep 11, 2021, at 7:46 PM, Jeff Palmer <w.jeff.palmer@icloud.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks - I had no idea. Just assumed the venting would be somewhat
> >>> flexible to accommodate different rv setups.
> >>>>
> >>>> I’m fine with my existing setup. It lights easy and stays lit. My van
> >>> is white so stays pretty cool. I’m in Winnipeg so it gets as warm as
> 37/38C
> >>> but average highs in the summer are about 26 I think. On warmer days I
> >>> just make sure I can plug in.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jeff
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Sep 11, 2021, at 9:26 PM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dave,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Many rvs have a separate chamber , box, vented outside , for propane
> >>> combustion, heating and cooling.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The vanagon a little different. Bit of a negative with the fins on
> back
> >>> of fridge inside the van. Warming up the van.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Alistair
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Sep 11, 2021, at 7:09 PM, David McNeely <davmcneely40@gmail.com
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Dennis, are you saying that Dometic (or other absorption units for
> >>> that
> >>>>>> matter) do not have sealed combustion chamber and double flue like
> the
> >>>>>> original one for our vans does? It seems that if they are intended
> >>> for RV
> >>>>>> installation they would have to have that. mcneely
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 10:00 AM Dennis Haynes <
> >>> d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Most of these units cannot go into the Westy without some serious
> >>>>>>> consideration for venting. In the RV world designed spaces the rear
> >>> goes
> >>>>>>> into a chimney type area completely separate from the living space
> >>> for both
> >>>>>>> heat dissipation and combustion air-exhaust for the propane. The
> Westy
> >>>>>>> Fridge is unique with the sealed combustion chamber and direct to
> >>> outside
> >>>>>>> connection for combustion air and exhaust.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Dennis
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> On Behalf
> Of
> >>> Jeff
> >>>>>>> Palmer
> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 10:58 PM
> >>>>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: dometic replacement
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yup 3 way. Or even propane only! Something like this?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dometic.com%2Fen-ca%2Foutdoor%2Fca%
> 2Fproducts%2Ffood-and-beverage%2Frefrigerators%2Frv-
> refrigerators%2Fdometic-rm-2354-_-147206&data=04%7C01%7C%
> 7C6ce27c33bdce4f24baec08d974cffba9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa
> aaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637669258913444682%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAw
> MDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=
> VpdPfQUCjjAdCL41nix4M717pWv81hNaSRiIHAIBUVM%3D&reserved=0
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 9:44 PM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Three way as in propane, dc, ac?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I seriously doubt any new ones are made in the form factor that
> >>> will fit
> >>>>>>> our vans.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Alistair
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 7:18 PM, Jeff Palmer <
> w.jeff.palmer@icloud.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Has anyone ever found a three way replacement they’re happy
> with?
> >>>>>>>>> Jeff
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 1:24 PM, Mike Miller <mwmiller6@ATT.NET>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> All,
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm really tired of fighting with my dometic, just about had it.
> >>>>>>>>>> But I'd like to replace it with something that fits into the
> same
> >>>>>>> space. It can be somewhat deeper but height and width should fit.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I've looked on line at several possibilities but mostly I can't
> get
> >>>>>>> the exterior dimensions. Sellers either don't have contact info or
> >>> when
> >>>>>>> contacted don't have the information.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Anybody got ideas how to find the exterior dimensions of items?
> >>>>>>>>>> m
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>
>
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