Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2021 10:32:12 -0700
Reply-To: Dan N <dn92610@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Dan N <dn92610@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Propex 1600 blowing fuses
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I use this to lubricate small bearings and eliminate creaking/squeaking
noises.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BYEE0RU/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
On Sun, Oct 31, 2021 at 10:24 AM David Beierl <dbeierl@gmail.com> wrote:
> I like Zoom turbine oil (Amazon or appliance parts house).
>
> Yrs,
> d
>
> On Sat, Oct 30, 2021 at 5:19 PM Mark McCulley <markmcculley@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Progress! The two halves of the motor case were held together by the
> > magnets and were easily separated. Pulling the armature out was a bit
> > difficult, the bushing was seized to the shaft and came out with the
> shaft.
> > I carefully removed the bushing from the shaft with pliers and polished
> it
> > and the shaft with emery paper. It will now spin freely on the shaft.
> >
> > More photos here: https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0QJ0DiRHJtI2mL
> >
> > Any suggestions on what kind of lube to use? I'm surprised that the
> > bushings aren't made of brass.
> >
> > Once the motor is back together I'll test it on the bench. Then I will
> have
> > to decide how comfortable I am with reassembling this thing and hooking
> it
> > up to a propane line. What could go wrong eh?
> >
> > -Mark
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 30, 2021 at 1:33 PM Mark McCulley <markmcculley@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Dennis, how would I get to the bearings? I've disassembled the heater
> and
> > > removed the fan motor. Do I need to disassemble the motor?
> > >
> > > Some photos here: https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0QJ0DiRHJtI2mL
> > >
> > > See the photo showing the end of the shaft, I wonder if that piece
> > > surrounding the shaft is scored so that it can be removed with some
> > special
> > > tool to get to the bearings?
> > >
> > > -Mark
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Oct 30, 2021 at 9:33 AM Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> It has been some time since I had one of these apart for repair. Gas
> jet
> > >> clogging is another common problem. In general DC fuses are sized and
> > >> coordinated to protect the wiring, not appliances themselves. Maybe
> > >> carefully lube the bearings avoiding oil on the brushes-commutator and
> > up
> > >> the fuse size and give the fans a push to get them turning. A
> synthetic
> > >> type light oil once the bearings spin again will work some magic.
> > >> Disappointing is that repair services and parts are not readily
> > available
> > >> considering the cost and how little these units are typically used.
> > >>
> > >> Dennis
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> On Behalf Of
> > Mark
> > >> McCulley
> > >> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 10:53 AM
> > >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > >> Subject: Re: Propex 1600 blowing fuses
> > >>
> > >> I did some more diagnosis, looks like the fan motor is the problem.
> > First
> > >> I removed the propane leak detector from the circuit, this did not
> make
> > any
> > >> difference, fuse still blew. It wasn't possible to remove the cover
> from
> > >> the heater with it still installed so I pulled the heater from the
> van.
> > >> Removing the heater cover was a minor challenge as parts of it were
> > >> sealed to the chassis with silicone RTV. Once removed I was able to
> > access
> > >> the two squirrel cage fans and could just barely move them. I don't
> > know if
> > >> the shaft rusted or what happened but it barely moves. I applied some
> > >> penetrating oil at both ends and let it sit for a while but that made
> no
> > >> difference. I may or may not attempt a fix by removing the motor and
> > >> disassembling it. Anyone have a broken model 1600 with a good motor?
> > Very
> > >> unlikely I know. :)
> > >>
> > >> Does anyone know if the newer HS2000 model has the same size and
> spacing
> > >> of the exhaust and combustion air inlet/outlet tubes? It would be nice
> > if
> > >> it were a drop in replacement for the Compact 1600.
> > >>
> > >> I don't know what bothers me more...not having a heater for camping
> this
> > >> winter or having two open holes through the floor of my van.
> > >>
> > >> -Mark
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 7:29 AM Mark McCulley <markmcculley@gmail.com
> >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > My trusty Propex 1600 heater blew a fuse yesterday when I tried to
> > >> > start it for the first time this year. The 5A fuse blows as soon as
> > >> > the unit turns on, both in Heat mode and in Fan Only mode. This
> makes
> > >> > me suspect the fan motor is the culprit. I have an inquiry in to
> > >> > Propex but I'd really like to fix it myself if possible. Anyone ever
> > >> > experienced a similar issue with the 1600?
> > >> >
> > >> > Regards,
> > >> > Mark
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> >
>
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