Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 19:50:56 -0700
Reply-To: OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET>
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From: OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: Another D15 connector failure example- The fix!
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I’m curious AB just what doubt You might be referring to,, I have no doubt that D15 Can Be & Is
sometimes a serious Problem Child when it comes to the Items that are connected to that circuit,, I do
however hold some doubt that it was that obviously faulty D15 that was the cause of that fire ~
Might have been but also might not have been ~
> On 27 Feb , 2022, at 5:20 PM, Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA> wrote:
>
> Just to update, I was at the burned out van stripping more stuff. Took a pic of the female side of the D connector.
> If you doubted before, this might sway :-)
>
> https://shufti.blog/2022/02/19/vanagon-another-d15-connector-failure/
>
> Alistair
>
>
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 3:25 PM, Jim. Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> It must be pretty rare, the unfused failure that might cause a fire. I have
>> driven about every kind of VW and many many other cars--rarely owning them
>> in the same decade as they were manufactured in--and don't ever recall a
>> problem. Except for a Karmann Ghia that burnt to the ground, me, wife and
>> infant child fleeing onto the roadway--but that was a battery fire.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 11:24 AM David McNeely <davmcneely40@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Wow! I guess I didn't realize this. Given the quite large number of fuzes
>>> in every vehicle I have ever had, going back to the early sixties, I
>>> thought everything was protected. I do remember that a large amperage fuze
>>> block started to appear in vehicles some time in the eighties or early
>>> nineties.
>>>
>>> So, if one is part way to a destination when the failure occurs and stops
>>> one from going further, that might or might not be better than being stuck
>>> at a starting point. In the latter case, little or no damage may have
>>> occurred, other than to the fuze, while part way there and there is a fire
>>> .... .
>>>
>>> Oh, well.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 8:17 AM Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Following old school wisdom I guess the thought at one point was to let
>>> it
>>>> run to failure! There are many wire circuits in the VW and other cars
>>> that
>>>> do not have any form of over current protection. Many American vehicles
>>> use
>>>> a fuse link or other device at the main battery-starter connection to
>>>> protect most everything except the starter itself. For the Vanagon while
>>>> most every light bulb has fuse protection to the bulb or even filament
>>>> level the ignition and fuel system is completely unfused. Same for all
>>> the
>>>> wiring up most of the switches and even after the switches to the fuse
>>> box.
>>>>
>>>> Dennis
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> On Behalf Of
>>> Gene P
>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2022 1:03 AM
>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>> Subject: Re: Another D15 connector failure example- The fix!
>>>>
>>>> I just noticed nobody answered that question “why isn’t the ignition
>>>> circuit fused?”, so I’ll take a shot at it.
>>>>
>>>> Because if it was fused, a burned fuse would prevent the engine from
>>>> starting.
>>>> It follows the logic that you would be better off being at least part way
>>>> to where you’d need to be to get the fire damage fixed.
>>>>
>>>> gp
>>>>
>>>> ‘87 T3
>>>> ‘81 R65
>>>> ‘61 TR3
>>>>
>>>> From: Alistair Bell
>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 9:50 AM
>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>> Subject: Re: Another D15 connector failure example- The fix!
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 20, 2022, at 8:49 AM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>> One question though, why isn’t the ignition circuit fused?
>>>>>
>>>>> Alistair
>>>>
>>>
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