Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2022 16:20:19 -0800
Reply-To: Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA>
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From: Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA>
Subject: Re: Another D15 connector failure example- The fix!
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Just to update, I was at the burned out van stripping more stuff. Took a pic of the female side of the D connector.
If you doubted before, this might sway :-)
https://shufti.blog/2022/02/19/vanagon-another-d15-connector-failure/
Alistair
> On Feb 27, 2022, at 3:25 PM, Jim. Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It must be pretty rare, the unfused failure that might cause a fire. I have
> driven about every kind of VW and many many other cars--rarely owning them
> in the same decade as they were manufactured in--and don't ever recall a
> problem. Except for a Karmann Ghia that burnt to the ground, me, wife and
> infant child fleeing onto the roadway--but that was a battery fire.
>
> Jim
>
>> On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 11:24 AM David McNeely <davmcneely40@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Wow! I guess I didn't realize this. Given the quite large number of fuzes
>> in every vehicle I have ever had, going back to the early sixties, I
>> thought everything was protected. I do remember that a large amperage fuze
>> block started to appear in vehicles some time in the eighties or early
>> nineties.
>>
>> So, if one is part way to a destination when the failure occurs and stops
>> one from going further, that might or might not be better than being stuck
>> at a starting point. In the latter case, little or no damage may have
>> occurred, other than to the fuze, while part way there and there is a fire
>> .... .
>>
>> Oh, well.
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 8:17 AM Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Following old school wisdom I guess the thought at one point was to let
>> it
>>> run to failure! There are many wire circuits in the VW and other cars
>> that
>>> do not have any form of over current protection. Many American vehicles
>> use
>>> a fuse link or other device at the main battery-starter connection to
>>> protect most everything except the starter itself. For the Vanagon while
>>> most every light bulb has fuse protection to the bulb or even filament
>>> level the ignition and fuel system is completely unfused. Same for all
>> the
>>> wiring up most of the switches and even after the switches to the fuse
>> box.
>>>
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> On Behalf Of
>> Gene P
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2022 1:03 AM
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> Subject: Re: Another D15 connector failure example- The fix!
>>>
>>> I just noticed nobody answered that question “why isn’t the ignition
>>> circuit fused?”, so I’ll take a shot at it.
>>>
>>> Because if it was fused, a burned fuse would prevent the engine from
>>> starting.
>>> It follows the logic that you would be better off being at least part way
>>> to where you’d need to be to get the fire damage fixed.
>>>
>>> gp
>>>
>>> ‘87 T3
>>> ‘81 R65
>>> ‘61 TR3
>>>
>>> From: Alistair Bell
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 9:50 AM
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> Subject: Re: Another D15 connector failure example- The fix!
>>>
>>>> On Feb 20, 2022, at 8:49 AM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>> One question though, why isn’t the ignition circuit fused?
>>>>
>>>> Alistair
>>>
>>
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