Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2022 19:09:22 -0600
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From: OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: Van insolation
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& even if it does OutGas,, 1 side is sealed by the Tin it is stuck to &
the other side is Aluminum so that only leaves the perimeter edge which
is slightly less than 1/20in thick that would be able to OG ~ Doubtful that
I’m going to be worring about it much @all ~
> On 4 Apr , 2022, at 5:34 PM, Dan N <dn92610@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> Yes... I use it and don't smell anything... and in our van there is a lot
> of plastic that smells... :-)
>
> On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 4:00 PM Jim. Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I doubt this is an issue worth worrying about. There is SO much more mass
>> of plastics, rubber and other petroleum products in most cars that the
>> threat of toxic fumes is overwhelming compared to a roll or two of Seal &
>> Peel. Neither I nor any passenger has ever mentioned an odor from that
>> product. Probably better for you than spending the night in a home with
>> "modern" fabrics and wood products. Anyway, whatever outgassing might occur
>> has likely occurred many years ago.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 11:02 AM Adam Grove <roverini@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> A concern I have about using products for homes is that these are not
>>> designed to be used inside due to off gassing of chemicals. I think
>>> it would be best to stick to automotive products which (ostensibly)
>>> don't have these downsides. I have successfully used a number of
>>> different products over the years. Mass matters if you want to stop
>>> noise. Bulk and space matters if you want temperature insulation. I
>>> usually use both. An adhesive mass loaded vinyl product followed by
>>> Havelock Wool insulation (non-toxic, resistant to mold etc) The Wool
>>> should only be used in dry cavities - not in the font doors for
>>> example.
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 1:35 AM Dan N <dn92610@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> hi Jeff,
>>>>
>>>> This is Peel & Seal from Lowes
>>>>
>>>
>> https://www.lowes.com/pd/Peel-Seal-Instant-Waterproof-Repairs-6-in-x-25-ft-Aluminum-Roll-Flashing/1018733
>>>>
>>>> It sticks by itself on any surface, you don't need any brush on
>> adhesive.
>>>> Best to do is heat the panel of your van lightly with a heat gun to get
>>> it
>>>> warm then put the Peel & Seal on.
>>>> I didn't notice any sag or run on because I never opened the panel to
>>> check.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 3, 2022 at 11:01 PM Jeff Palmer <w.jeff.palmer@icloud.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just so I’m clear - peel and seal is a wrap of some sort? When I
>>> google
>>>>> it I see a wrap but also a can that I assume you apply with a brush?
>>>>>
>>>>> If someone has a link to the Lowes product it would be appreciated!
>>>>>
>>>>> Only downside I have read about is that it may sag on vertical
>>> surfaces.
>>>>> ORR sounds like that’s what you’ve done? Any bad experiences with
>>> sagging?
>>>>> (I’m talking about the van now!)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 3, 2022, at 10:42 AM, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’ve installed Peel & Seal on My 90Westy in all 4 Doors & on
>>>>> several Friends Vans where I usually
>>>>>>
>>>>>> put in Rear Quarters as well as All Doors,, It lessens the ability
>>> of an
>>>>> area of Tin to resonate sound & it
>>>>>>
>>>>>> does that amazingly well ~ Not even necessary to cover entire area,
>>> just
>>>>> whatever You can conveniently
>>>>>>
>>>>>> get to ~
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2 Apr , 2022, at 5:11 PM, Richard Koerner <
>> rjkinpb@SBCGLOBAL.NET
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The stuff at Lowe's is called "Peel and Seal". Peel & Seal
>> Instant
>>>>> Waterproof Repairs 6-in x 25-ft Aluminum Roll Flashing Lowes.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> | | |
>>>>>>> Peel & Seal Instant Waterproof Repairs ...
>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I used it in the cabin area of van: pedestals, floor, inside
>> doors,
>>>>> and also inside Slider. Quite happy. I also used it on the front
>> area
>>>>> under dashboard; unfortunately, this sheet metal area must get pretty
>>> warm
>>>>> from front radiator blow by, and as a result, evidence of "tar"
>>> dripping
>>>>> down on the sides into footwells. I clean it up, and it later
>>> re-appears.
>>>>> But, even then, I have had no "tar" odors. It's been in place over
>> 12
>>>>> years. And yes, very significant road noise reduction, so worth it
>> to
>>> me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, April 1, 2022, 06:41:43 PM PDT, Gil Ngai <
>>>>> eyebawlgil@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is roof patch? can you send a link?
>>>>>>> Do you mean roofing tar?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> •••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••
>>>>>>> *GIL NGAI* • *I TELL GOOD STORIES*
>>>>>>> *filmmaker • DP • **chief storyteller • instructor*
>>>>>>> * www.dayonemedia.ca <http://www.dayone-media.com/> *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 6:49 PM Stephen Grisanti <
>> bike2vcu@yahoo.com
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I did years ago on our ‘87 Westy, had to order directly from the
>>>>> source in
>>>>>>>> Alberta. Freight runs the total up considerably so get enough
>>> initially
>>>>>>>> that you need not reorder.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When mine did run out I used Roof Patch from Lowe’s that folks
>>> belittle
>>>>>>>> but the stuff looks (and smells) identical. Narrower roll and
>> about
>>>>> half
>>>>>>>> the price. Seemed no different otherwise.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stephen
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mobile
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2022, at 7:37 PM, Gil Ngai <eyebawlgil@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> B-Quiet Sound is having a 20% off sale now through the weekend.
>>>>>>>>> Has anyone used this stuff?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> B-Quiet.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They advised me for a Vanagon to get one roll of Ultimate 50 and
>>> one
>>>>>>>> sheet
>>>>>>>>> of VComp
>>>>>>>>> should be enough to do the rear engine area, front doors and
>> part
>>> of
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> floors with the Ultimate and then put the VComp over the rear
>>> bench.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gil
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> •••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••
>>>>>>>>> *GIL NGAI* • *I TELL GOOD STORIES*
>>>>>>>>> *filmmaker • DP • **chief storyteller • instructor*
>>>>>>>>> * www.dayonemedia.ca <http://www.dayone-media.com/> *
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 2:42 PM Karl Mullendore <
>>>>>>>> tdiguru@westyventures.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The first batch I bought out in Baltimore was about 35 bags,
>>> then a
>>>>> few
>>>>>>>>>> years
>>>>>>>>>> later found another place in PA that still had 47. I bought all
>>> of it
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> sold
>>>>>>>>>> most of it to others for their projects. I guess I should have
>>> left a
>>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>> bags in MD.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
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