Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2022 16:34:30 -0700
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From: Dan N <dn92610@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Van insolation
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Yes... I use it and don't smell anything... and in our van there is a lot
of plastic that smells... :-)
On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 4:00 PM Jim. Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:
> I doubt this is an issue worth worrying about. There is SO much more mass
> of plastics, rubber and other petroleum products in most cars that the
> threat of toxic fumes is overwhelming compared to a roll or two of Seal &
> Peel. Neither I nor any passenger has ever mentioned an odor from that
> product. Probably better for you than spending the night in a home with
> "modern" fabrics and wood products. Anyway, whatever outgassing might occur
> has likely occurred many years ago.
>
> Jim
>
> On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 11:02 AM Adam Grove <roverini@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > A concern I have about using products for homes is that these are not
> > designed to be used inside due to off gassing of chemicals. I think
> > it would be best to stick to automotive products which (ostensibly)
> > don't have these downsides. I have successfully used a number of
> > different products over the years. Mass matters if you want to stop
> > noise. Bulk and space matters if you want temperature insulation. I
> > usually use both. An adhesive mass loaded vinyl product followed by
> > Havelock Wool insulation (non-toxic, resistant to mold etc) The Wool
> > should only be used in dry cavities - not in the font doors for
> > example.
> >
> > Adam
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 1:35 AM Dan N <dn92610@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > hi Jeff,
> > >
> > > This is Peel & Seal from Lowes
> > >
> >
> https://www.lowes.com/pd/Peel-Seal-Instant-Waterproof-Repairs-6-in-x-25-ft-Aluminum-Roll-Flashing/1018733
> > >
> > > It sticks by itself on any surface, you don't need any brush on
> adhesive.
> > > Best to do is heat the panel of your van lightly with a heat gun to get
> > it
> > > warm then put the Peel & Seal on.
> > > I didn't notice any sag or run on because I never opened the panel to
> > check.
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 3, 2022 at 11:01 PM Jeff Palmer <w.jeff.palmer@icloud.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Just so I’m clear - peel and seal is a wrap of some sort? When I
> > google
> > > > it I see a wrap but also a can that I assume you apply with a brush?
> > > >
> > > > If someone has a link to the Lowes product it would be appreciated!
> > > >
> > > > Only downside I have read about is that it may sag on vertical
> > surfaces.
> > > > ORR sounds like that’s what you’ve done? Any bad experiences with
> > sagging?
> > > > (I’m talking about the van now!)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Jeff
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Apr 3, 2022, at 10:42 AM, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I’ve installed Peel & Seal on My 90Westy in all 4 Doors & on
> > > > several Friends Vans where I usually
> > > > >
> > > > > put in Rear Quarters as well as All Doors,, It lessens the ability
> > of an
> > > > area of Tin to resonate sound & it
> > > > >
> > > > > does that amazingly well ~ Not even necessary to cover entire area,
> > just
> > > > whatever You can conveniently
> > > > >
> > > > > get to ~
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> On 2 Apr , 2022, at 5:11 PM, Richard Koerner <
> rjkinpb@SBCGLOBAL.NET
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The stuff at Lowe's is called "Peel and Seal". Peel & Seal
> Instant
> > > > Waterproof Repairs 6-in x 25-ft Aluminum Roll Flashing Lowes.com
> > > > >>
> > > > >> | | |
> > > > >> Peel & Seal Instant Waterproof Repairs ...
> > > > >> |
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I used it in the cabin area of van: pedestals, floor, inside
> doors,
> > > > and also inside Slider. Quite happy. I also used it on the front
> area
> > > > under dashboard; unfortunately, this sheet metal area must get pretty
> > warm
> > > > from front radiator blow by, and as a result, evidence of "tar"
> > dripping
> > > > down on the sides into footwells. I clean it up, and it later
> > re-appears.
> > > > But, even then, I have had no "tar" odors. It's been in place over
> 12
> > > > years. And yes, very significant road noise reduction, so worth it
> to
> > me.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Friday, April 1, 2022, 06:41:43 PM PDT, Gil Ngai <
> > > > eyebawlgil@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> What is roof patch? can you send a link?
> > > > >> Do you mean roofing tar?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> •••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••
> > > > >> *GIL NGAI* • *I TELL GOOD STORIES*
> > > > >> *filmmaker • DP • **chief storyteller • instructor*
> > > > >> * www.dayonemedia.ca <http://www.dayone-media.com/> *
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 6:49 PM Stephen Grisanti <
> bike2vcu@yahoo.com
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> I did years ago on our ‘87 Westy, had to order directly from the
> > > > source in
> > > > >>> Alberta. Freight runs the total up considerably so get enough
> > initially
> > > > >>> that you need not reorder.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> When mine did run out I used Roof Patch from Lowe’s that folks
> > belittle
> > > > >>> but the stuff looks (and smells) identical. Narrower roll and
> about
> > > > half
> > > > >>> the price. Seemed no different otherwise.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Stephen
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Mobile
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> On Apr 1, 2022, at 7:37 PM, Gil Ngai <eyebawlgil@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> B-Quiet Sound is having a 20% off sale now through the weekend.
> > > > >>>> Has anyone used this stuff?
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> B-Quiet.com
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> They advised me for a Vanagon to get one roll of Ultimate 50 and
> > one
> > > > >>> sheet
> > > > >>>> of VComp
> > > > >>>> should be enough to do the rear engine area, front doors and
> part
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > >>>> floors with the Ultimate and then put the VComp over the rear
> > bench.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Gil
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> •••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••
> > > > >>>> *GIL NGAI* • *I TELL GOOD STORIES*
> > > > >>>> *filmmaker • DP • **chief storyteller • instructor*
> > > > >>>> * www.dayonemedia.ca <http://www.dayone-media.com/> *
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 2:42 PM Karl Mullendore <
> > > > >>> tdiguru@westyventures.com>
> > > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> The first batch I bought out in Baltimore was about 35 bags,
> > then a
> > > > few
> > > > >>>>> years
> > > > >>>>> later found another place in PA that still had 47. I bought all
> > of it
> > > > >>> and
> > > > >>>>> sold
> > > > >>>>> most of it to others for their projects. I guess I should have
> > left a
> > > > >>> few
> > > > >>>>> more
> > > > >>>>> bags in MD.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> >
>
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