Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2022 17:50:36 -0500
Reply-To: Eric Caron <ericcaron96@COMCAST.NET>
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From: Eric Caron <ericcaron96@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: 1985 Vanagon 1.9l Digijet No Start
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Hi Mark,
If possible can you include Dan’s suggestions in your reply? I’m storing away for future use!
Eric
> On Nov 7, 2022, at 4:59 PM, Mark Pinnell <mark.stuart.pinnell@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Dan.
> Just now going over the Bentley to put together my next round of diagnostic
> checks. Coil, rotor and distributor wire(s) resistance, etc.
> Thought about the starting fluid to ascertain fuel issue, but wasn't sure
> if that was recommended or not. I'll add it to the list.
> It may be Wednesday before it happens as I was reminded that we spend
> tomorrow with our two year old granddaughter, so Pearl will have to wait
> another day... No contest.
> Thanks again. All suggestions are greatly appreciated.
> Mark
>
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2022, 4:44 PM Dan N <dn92610@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hi Mark,
>>
>> Here are things to check (some of them are already suggested by others on
>> this forum or you have already done)...
>> - check the TPS (throttle position switch) - you must hear a click as soon
>> as you move the accelerator.
>> - check all small vacuum hoses.
>> - check the large rubber elbow from the AFM to the throttle body for any
>> crack. Cracks are more obvious to the engine when the ambient temperature
>> drops in the winter. You could seal the cracks with silicone sealant.
>> - check the connector to the AFM - it may look clean but a squirt of
>> electronic cleaner won't do any harm.
>> - check the timing, the distributor cap and rotor.
>> - for testing... spray some starter fluid at the intake after the air
>> filter.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 1:00 PM Mark Pinnell <mark.stuart.pinnell@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Dan,
>>> I don't have either of those options, but if it comes down to it, then I
>>> can't see any harm in buying another coil to have in my traveling arsenal
>>> of spare parts. We'll see what tomorrow brings...
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2022, 3:55 PM Dan N <dn92610@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you have (or borrow) a spare coil, put it in for testing.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 12:46 PM Mark Pinnell <
>>>> mark.stuart.pinnell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>> Connections look good and the boot is secure on both ends, but no joy.
>>>>> It
>>>>> turns over very easily and it sure sounds like it wants to go...
>>>>> Seasonal temperatures tomorrow, so I will pull that large connector and
>>>>> go
>>>>> through the tests in the Bentley as well as confirm spark and fuel again
>>>>> (as it almost has to be one or the other). I do all of the grounds every
>>>>> spring, but I'll do them again just in case. Can't hurt.
>>>>> Thanks again for your suggestions. They are appreciated.
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2022, 2:22 PM John Lauterbach <john@jhl.mgacoxmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Mark,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had an '84 1.9L with automatic transmission, and had the same
>>>>> problem a
>>>>>> few times. First thing I would check is the airflow meter. Make
>>>>> sure the
>>>>>> electrical connection is secure. Second thing is to make sure that
>>>>> the
>>>>>> S-shaped boot from the box that connects the airflow meter to the
>>>>> throttle
>>>>>> body is secure on both ends. If those connections are good, take a
>>>>> look at
>>>>>> the big connector that goes into the fuel injection module (it was
>>>>> behind
>>>>>> the left taillight on my '84). If the connector contacts are dirty,
>>>>> you
>>>>>> will get the same symptoms.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> *From*: Mark Pinnell <mark.stuart.pinnell@GMAIL.COM
>>>>>> <Mark%20Pinnell%20%3cmark.stuart.pinnell@GMAIL.COM%3e>>
>>>>>> *Reply-To*: Mark Pinnell <mark.stuart.pinnell@GMAIL.COM
>>>>>> <Mark%20Pinnell%20%3cmark.stuart.pinnell@GMAIL.COM%3e>>
>>>>>> *To*: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>>>> *Subject*: 1985 Vanagon 1.9l Digijet No Start
>>>>>> *Date*: Mon, 7 Nov 2022 07:11:18 -0500
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>> Looking for suggestions/next steps. Pearl has been running like a top
>>>>> for
>>>>>> 10K miles this summer, until last Tuesday...
>>>>>> Fired right up as usual, but when I put her in gear (automatic
>>>>>> transmission), she stalled and has not started since. Managed to
>>>>> flood her
>>>>>> and drain the battery in the process, but after letting her sit, and
>>>>>> charging the battery, and trying to boost her over the last few days,
>>>>> she
>>>>>> still has me stumped. Have pulled, cleaned and gapped the plugs and
>>>>> checked
>>>>>> for spark (looked surprisingly good).
>>>>>> Also put in a new fuel filter since I had one, and tested the
>>>>> injectors and
>>>>>> got the textbook cone spray.
>>>>>> As she was running fine up to that point with no signs of anything
>>>>> failing,
>>>>>> so I am not sure what to check next.
>>>>>> As I have a couple times in the past, I throw it out to the collective
>>>>>> knowledge of the group to see what your thoughts are.
>>>>>> At home with no trips planned, so certainly not an emergency. I
>>>>> normally
>>>>>> put her in storage well before the first snowfall, and would like to
>>>>> solve
>>>>>> this latest puzzle before doing that.
>>>>>> Thanks in advance for your help,
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (I sent this two days ago, then realized that it wasn't going through
>>>>> to
>>>>>> list members when I received no response. Thanks to Jim for getting
>>>>> that
>>>>>> sorted out.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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