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Date:   Sun, 5 Mar 2023 13:26:17 -0800
Reply-To:   Dan N <dn92610@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:   Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:   Dan N <dn92610@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:   Re: Instrument cluster tab repair
Comments:   To: Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To:   <CAFnDXk07zmJn09QMCA-y2UKMciM7QHy9V3z4nTS-jdX9MczqjQ@mail.gmail.com>
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There are 2 ways in dropbox

- the user *moves* the file (not copy) - so there's no duplicate file. If someone goes to dropbox and makes a *"cleanup"*, the file will be *gone*.

- the user *copies* the file (not move) - there will be a duplicate file. If someone goes to dropbox and makes a *"cleanup"*, the user *still has* the original file.

On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 1:14 PM Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:

> Exactly. One of the board members was using dropbox to gate-keep who had > what, and have everything in a central repository. That meant he had a > access to "rid" everyone's files except the ones he deemed the latest. He > quit about the time I found out about it. > > Jim > > On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 1:57 PM Dan N <dn92610@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I am not a computer expert but I know enough to find my way around the >> hardware and software that I have. Sorry to hear about your experience with >> dropbox... >> I don't see how dropbox can delete your files. Dropbox is a kind of >> cloud/virtual storage. The user copy/upload a file to dropbox and send a >> notification/email inviting his/her client or friend telling that the file >> is there so go get it. In the meantime the original file sits on the user's >> computer - so where did the original file go after the upload?. In fact >> there are 2 copies of the file - one in dropbox and one in the user's >> computer. >> Someone somehow must have access to the user's computer in order to >> delete the files - dropbox or not. >> >> On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 11:25 AM Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Dropbox is horrible, I consider it a virus. I once worked for a >>> non-profit of which a board member convinced the rest of the board to adopt >>> dropbox. I worked for the board as the executive director. When dropbox >>> gained access to my computer, it cleaned out every single folder that had a >>> file in it that I developed for the non-profit. It also cleaned out >>> hundreds of images that belonged to me that I had used in the >>> various projects I did for this non-profit over a decade. Those folders are >>> empty to this day and many of my photos are gone. I had no warning of this, >>> I just discovered it one morning. Fortunately, I have multiple archives of >>> everything I do but sometimes it might take me a couple of hours to find >>> what once was at my fingertips. No thanks, dropbox. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 12:46 PM Dan N <dn92610@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> There's a service called Dropbox that I use sometimes. The basic >>>> service is >>>> free. >>>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 10:40 AM OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@comcast.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> > Being a photographer & videographer I have always missed the >>>> fact >>>> > >>>> > We are unable to attach images to Our EMs but do understand the >>>> reasons >>>> > >>>> > for that,,, But these days with all of the places that images can be >>>> > uploaded >>>> > >>>> > to & shared via links on the www it seems almost silly that We >>>> haven’t done >>>> > >>>> > something to make our Vanagon Related images available to Us all ~ >>>> > >>>> > I really do like the Ease Of Use of this EM List & would not >>>> like >>>> > to see it >>>> > >>>> > altered in any way & do believe that establishing a venue for images >>>> that >>>> > are >>>> > >>>> > pertinent to Our discussions would only add Frosting to this Yummy >>>> Cake ~ >>>> > >>>> > Certainly there are other www based places where dialog & >>>> images >>>> > are >>>> > >>>> > easily shared simultaneously but they can & do become confusing >>>> messes for >>>> > >>>> > some reason,,, I avoid TheSamba because to Me it is the proverbial >>>> HayStack >>>> > >>>> > & as for FaceBook, there is a fine example of a HayStack in a Tornado >>>> ~ >>>> > >>>> > ORR ~ DeanB >>>> > >>>> > & I really do like that YouGuys don’t give Me a hard time >>>> about My >>>> > >>>> > Rebellious Punctuation ~ >>>> > >>>> > > On 5 Mar , 2023, at 11:04 AM, Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM> >>>> wrote: >>>> > > >>>> > > Funny how this all comes around. Ten years ago, I was lobbying for >>>> the >>>> > > ability to post photos as that was an option at the time, during >>>> one of >>>> > our >>>> > > major switchovers. I argued that it would make us more effective at >>>> > > communication which part, where, how, etc. The purists would hear >>>> none of >>>> > > it. Where are they now? Did they die off? I think they all migrated >>>> to >>>> > > Facebook when they got the chance and this list suffered for it. >>>> But here >>>> > > we have a real discussion, not the morass-like structure of FB >>>> which is >>>> > > like a river--anything put into it floats downstream to never be >>>> seen >>>> > > again, the one-upsmanship, the smartassery of of internet >>>> anonymity. Just >>>> > > wish we could have both. >>>> > > >>>> > > Jim >>>> > > >>>> > > On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 11:31 AM Richard Koerner < >>>> rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net> >>>> > > wrote: >>>> > > >>>> > >> Yes Dean....you are on to something good. Google Photos is an >>>> excellent >>>> > >> passageway. OK....next step is to have all of this happen. >>>> Seamlessly. >>>> > >> Hardly a thought. That is why Facebook is so successful and >>>> popular. >>>> > Not >>>> > >> us Vanagon Folks....but in general, people are lazy. >>>> > >> >>>> > >> On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 09:25:45 AM PST, OlRivrRat < >>>> > >> olrivrrat@comcast.net> wrote: >>>> > >> >>>> > >> On 5 Mar , 2023, at 9:50 AM, Richard Koerner < >>>> rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net> >>>> > >> wrote: >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> Yes Dean, that thing works! Could absolutely see all of the >>>> detail. >>>> > So >>>> > >> marvelous. Now...we have got to find a way to transmit this >>>> knowledge >>>> > to >>>> > >> the rest of the gang. So that this stuff can become a common >>>> > occurrence. >>>> > >> Doing so, will absolutely transform this List....in a good way. >>>> > >>> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Maybe if all of us have access to Google Photos, a GerryVanagon >>>> > account >>>> > >> >>>> > >> could be established & SignIn info made available to All >>>> Interested ~ >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Albums can be created within the Account, if need be, for >>>> various >>>> > >> subject >>>> > >> >>>> > >> matters like Parts, Maint’, Accessories, Trips ~ >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Flickr is also another option & I suspect there are many others >>>> ~ >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >>>> >>>


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