Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2023 22:33:26 -0400
Reply-To: Eric Caron <ericcaron96@COMCAST.NET>
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From: Eric Caron <ericcaron96@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: Radiator Baffles front grill
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Yes, I suspect they are not very important, but, if they were designed to be there I see no harm in putting them back.
I wonder if they might help with wind and rain noise as a benefit.
It was a fun creative task if not a very important one.
Eric Caron
And the utility knife cuts are almost gone!
Eric Caron
> On Apr 21, 2023, at 7:00 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM <mailto:d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>> wrote:
>
> So for all this effort, consider that for the South African grilles with 4 headlights, none of them are supplied with any sort of air shield or baffle in this area. The three guides on the side and bottom of the radiator are mostly needed to prevent the discharge of the hot air from the radiator fan getting sucked back into the front. Especially with vans that have AC.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com <mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>> On Behalf Of Eric Caron
> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2023 1:19 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Subject: Re: Radiator Baffles front grill
>
> Done!
>
> Now both vans have these baffles. I’m still very surprised that no venders have created them. Especially GW as they did create the three that go around the radiator.
>
> I would expect that a reasonably priced version of the full set could be created.
> Stainless is not needed. Heck the cardboard treated ones lasted decades.
> It is amazing to me that I’m still learning so much about my van and still replacing missing parts or putting the original parts back where they belong.
> I managed to do a bit of damage to my hands but nothing serious and it is always extra fun to create and repair things on the van with the help of this list and some creativity.
>
>
> Eric Caron
>
>
>
>> On Apr 5, 2023, at 6:34 PM, Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net <mailto:ericcaron96@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Great research,
>>
>> Now that I’ve learned that the baffles exist, and have learned how to make them from plastic cardboard, I’m good.
>>
>> But, if someone had a template and one of our venders had a reasonably priced option I would have purchased.
>>
>> I am happy with the results of my fabrication, but I could have avoided the extensive use of sharp knives and the inevitable finger cuts!
>>
>> Now to make two more for the 85 and try to avoid accidents!
>>
>> Eric Caron
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 5, 2023, at 11:20 AM, John T <john.thiessen@GMAIL.COM <mailto:john.thiessen@GMAIL.COM>> wrote:
>>>
>>> This was a head scratcher to me at first, however I did find two
>>> references online that may help others understand which baffles these
>>> are and where they are located. Both of these sites are in German,
>>> but you will get it.
>>>
>>> The third link is where you could purchase a stainless steel version
>>> if you really wanted them.
>>>
>>> I too would be interested in a template that was made from an original ...
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 8:37 PM Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net <mailto:ericcaron96@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Nope,
>>>>
>>>> this isn’t what I’m talking about. I did purchase this three part set. It replaces the old ones that go on either side and bottom of radiator.
>>>>
>>>> What I built and replaced are two additional baffles that were originally attached to the front grill. They go between the headlight and the GW baffles, or original side baffles.
>>>>
>>>> Eric Caron
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 4, 2023, at 8:33 PM, Dan N <dn92610@GMAIL.COM <mailto:dn92610@GMAIL.COM>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a set...made of plastic... the OEM is cardboard..
>>>>>
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>>>>> On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 4:53 PM Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com <mailto:jim.felder@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I used real estate signs (coroplast is the tradename for the
>>>>>> corrugated
>>>>>> plastic) to replace mine years ago and they have held up pretty
>>>>>> well over the years. I would like to have a pattern from the original though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 6:26 PM Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net <mailto:ericcaron96@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, Thanks to Alistair for the description of the radiator
>>>>>>> baffles that
>>>>>> go
>>>>>>> on the front grill. I never new these existed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I’m a slow fabricator but I’m happy with the results. There
>>>>>>> is now a baffle between headlight and radiator baffle on both
>>>>>>> sides of the grill.
>>>>>>> I did the 84 and will next do the 85.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not sure how important these are but I can see how it will keep
>>>>>>> out some rain and maybe change some wind noise. I just like
>>>>>>> having things as
>>>>>> close
>>>>>>> to stock as possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I’m surprised non of the venders have created these. There are
>>>>>>> baffles from GW for the sides and bottom of the radiator but
>>>>>>> nothing to replace those on the grill.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We will see how mine hold up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eric Caron
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