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Date:         Mon, 22 May 2023 16:41:41 -0400
Reply-To:     Steven Brower <brower@BROWERPROPULSIONLAB.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Steven Brower <brower@BROWERPROPULSIONLAB.COM>
Subject:      Re: CONFIRM vanagon
Comments: To: Ryan Alfonso <ryan.alfonso@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <4451EFFC-9B87-45A9-B611-F53511EE0E90@gmail.com>
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Thanks?

Steven Brower

BPL R & D Brooklyn Navy Yard 63 Flushing Avenue Building 280, Suite 521 Brooklyn, NY 11205 (347) 223-8877 brower@browerpropulsionlab.com browerproplab.com

> On May 22, 2023, at 4:36 PM, Ryan Alfonso <ryan.alfonso@gmail.com> wrote: > > CONFIRM vanagon > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: "L-Soft list server at Vanagon List (1.8d)" <LISTSERV@gerry.vanagon.com> >> Date: May 22, 2023 at 12:04:39 PM PDT >> To: Ryan Alfonso <ryan.alfonso@gmail.com> >> Subject: Probe failure for vanagon >> >>  >> >> Mon, 22 May 2023 15:04:44 >> >> LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM has just received the enclosed delivery error

>> as a result of a probe sent to your RYAN.ALFONSO@GMAIL.COM account for

>> the vanagon list. If you are reading this message, it means that your

>> mail system is successfully delivering mail to your mailbox, while at the

>> same time reporting that an error has occurred (or, alternatively, the

>> error could be due to a system problem which has since then been fixed).

>> At any rate, ListServ has no way to know that you have actually received

>> the present message, and is operating on the assumption that your e-mail

>> address is no longer valid. Typically, ListServ will send you one or more

>> additional probe messages, on a daily basis, to determine whether the

>> failure persists, and if so you will be removed from the list eventually.

>> Some lists are configured to remove users on the first failure. >> >> Assuming you have not been removed from the list yet, you can stop this

>> process by sending the following command to LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM as

>> soon as possible: >> >> CONFIRM vanagon >> >> This will tell ListServ that your account actually does work and that you

>> still want to receive mail from the vanagon list. >> >> While the CONFIRM command will solve your immediate problem, it is only a

>> matter of time until you find yourself in the same situation again.

>> Please take a look at the enclosed error report and try to determine

>> whether it is a genuine error, or just an informational message. Bear in

>> mind that this error report was processed by a computer that cannot tell

>> "User JAIME24 does not exist" from "Please note that the Department of

>> Microbiology will be closed from December 19 to January 2" or "Attempts

>> to deliver your message have been unsuccessful for 300 seconds; will keep

>> trying for another 431700 seconds". These informational messages, while

>> possibly useful to a human reader, should not be sent in answer to a

>> message coming from a mailing list (it is very easy for the mail program

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>> errors should be reported to your computer/network support staff as soon

>> as possible so that they can be corrected. >> >> ------------------------- Delivery error report -------------------------

>> Return-Path: <> >> Date: Mon, 22 May 2023 15:04:44 -0400 >> Reply-to: postmaster@gerry.vanagon.com >> From: "LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b" <postmaster@gerry.vanagon.com> >> Subject: Undelivered mail >> To: owner-vanagon*ryan*-alfonso**GMAIL*-COM@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> X-Report-Type: Nondelivery; boundary="> Error description:" >> >> An error was detected while processing the enclosed message. A list of >> the affected recipient follows. This list is in a special format that >> allows software like LISTSERV to automatically take action on incorrect >> addresses; you can safely ignore the numeric codes. >> >> --> Error description: >> Error-for: ryan.alfonso@GMAIL.COM >> Error-Code: 0 >> Error-Text: Mailer gmail-smtp-in.l.google.COM said: >> "550 5.7.26 DMARC initiative. q3-20020ad45ca3000000b0061b60d73584si4071484qvh.548 - gsmtp" >> >> Error-End: One error reported. >> >> ------------------------------ Original message ------------------------------ >> Received: from gerry (gerry.vanagon.com) by gerry.vanagon.com (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0001F37B@gerry.vanagon.com>; Mon, 22 May 2023 15:04:09 -0400 >> Received: from GERRY.VANAGON.COM by GERRY.VANAGON.COM (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release >> 1.8d) with spool id 82213 for vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM; Mon, 22 May >> 2023 15:04:09 -0400 >> Received: from sonic310-24.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by gerry.vanagon.com

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It smells of VOC - Volatile Organ= >> ic Compounds, suggesting the polymer is dissolved in an oil distillate. It'= >> s harsher on the hands than Turtle Wax. I'll try to remember to use gloves = >> next time. Not sure if one lasts longer than the other. >> I used to buy Turtle Wax because that seems to be what others grab by defau= >> lt. After reading a Consumer reports comparison several years ago I tried "= >> Armor All Car Wax Gel" in a squeze bottle. It goes on directly to the washe= >> d and rinsed car when wet, so saves some waiting time. At least for me took= >> the same time to apply and buff, and I needed 1/2 bottle per vehicle, more= >> than the 1/8 stated. >> >> McNeely's comment below suggests that wax isn't really needed for longevity= >> - maybe it's protective effect on modern car paints is negligible? >> >> My '82 Westy was repainted in 1994 by PO. Nice job with a clear coat on top= >> . After 20 years outside clear coat has come off the top of the rear hatch = >> - that part faces directly into the sun the way Poppie is parked. >> >> I find the wax helps most on the pop-top. Dirt rinses off, as opposed to di= >> scoloring the pop-top surface.=20 >> >> Martin and '82 Westy 1.9TD Poppie >> >> Sun, 30 Apr David McNeely <davmcneely40@GMAIL.COM> >> >> Power to you Richard.=C2=A0 I haven't waxed (or polished) a car in many a y= >> ear. >> I used to when I was young, but I learned that the finish is pretty much >> there to stay, unless the vehicle (or parts of it) have been repainted.=C2= >> =A0 It >> doesn't have to shine for me.=C2=A0 I am interested in a repaint job for my >> camper, though, with some minor ding repair included.=C2=A0 If anyone can >> recommend the place to do that near me, please do.=C2=A0 I am near Spokane, >> Washington. >> >> >>> On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 4:52=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C2=AFPM Richard Koerner <rjkinp= >>> b@sbcglobal.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> My uncle in Wisconsin is a multi-decade fanatic about having a shiny car. >>> He recommended Nu-Finish...the $8 stuff in a bright orange bottle.=C2=A0 = >> I >>> bought a bottle.=C2=A0 Tried it on my daily driver, 2004 Toyota Highlande= >> r. >>> (I'm still in the "Insurance Phase" of getting my wrecked 85 Vanagon >>> fixed.)=C2=A0 I was delightfully impressed.=C2=A0 Super easy to apply, su= >> per easy to >>> wipe off.=C2=A0 Very slick and shiny, and so easy.=C2=A0 I've been a long= >> -time fan of >>> Carnuba Wax, and use once or twice a year on both Highlander and Vanagon; >>> but that's always a project...with sore arms and shoulders.=C2=A0 This Nu= >> -Finish >>> product may just be the better alternative.=C2=A0 Scotty Kilmer and other= >> s have >>> also suggested it's use on glass; many other YouTubers agreed as a Rain-X >>> alternative; water just flows off.=C2=A0 Only thing to beware of is DO NO= >> T get >>> it on rubber or black plastic parts.=C2=A0 Anyway, it just might be the "= >> lazy >>> man's" way to have a shiny Vanagon, with great results that last a long >>> time.=C2=A0 Apparently it's been around forever....but only now am I disc= >> overing >>> it. >>


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