Date: Mon, 22 May 2023 21:20:47 +0000
Reply-To: Richard Koerner <rjkinpb@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
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From: Richard Koerner <rjkinpb@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Subject: Re: CONFIRM vanagon
In-Reply-To: <810F488D-2B55-4434-AB50-C5402B9718CA@gmail.com>
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I still marvel about how resilient the old school Vanagon List is. It takes a beating, and keeps on serving. I think with modern stuff, blazing fast and powerful computers we all now have, ability to share pics about some specific detail...that would be a wonderful invention and improvement. Oh wait.....I think some guy named Mark Z. similarly thought it would be a good idea.
On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 01:47:09 PM PDT, Ryan Alfonso <ryan.alfonso@gmail.com> wrote:
Woopsidinkums!
> On May 22, 2023, at 1:41 PM, Steven Brower <brower@browerpropulsionlab.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks?
>
> Steven Brower
>
>
> BPL R & D
> Brooklyn Navy Yard
> 63 Flushing Avenue
> Building 280, Suite 521
> Brooklyn, NY 11205
> (347) 223-8877
> brower@browerpropulsionlab.com
> browerproplab.com
>
>> On May 22, 2023, at 4:36 PM, Ryan Alfonso <ryan.alfonso@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> CONFIRM vanagon
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> From: "L-Soft list server at Vanagon List (1.8d)" <LISTSERV@gerry.vanagon.com>
>>> Date: May 22, 2023 at 12:04:39 PM PDT
>>> To: Ryan Alfonso <ryan.alfonso@gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Probe failure for vanagon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mon, 22 May 2023 15:04:44
>>>
>>> LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM has just received the enclosed delivery error
>>> as a result of a probe sent to your RYAN.ALFONSO@GMAIL.COM account for
>>> the vanagon list. If you are reading this message, it means that your
>>> mail system is successfully delivering mail to your mailbox, while at the
>>> same time reporting that an error has occurred (or, alternatively, the
>>> error could be due to a system problem which has since then been fixed).
>>> At any rate, ListServ has no way to know that you have actually received
>>> the present message, and is operating on the assumption that your e-mail
>>> address is no longer valid. Typically, ListServ will send you one or more
>>> additional probe messages, on a daily basis, to determine whether the
>>> failure persists, and if so you will be removed from the list eventually.
>>> Some lists are configured to remove users on the first failure.
>>>
>>> Assuming you have not been removed from the list yet, you can stop this
>>> process by sending the following command to LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM as
>>> soon as possible:
>>>
>>> CONFIRM vanagon
>>>
>>> This will tell ListServ that your account actually does work and that you
>>> still want to receive mail from the vanagon list.
>>>
>>> While the CONFIRM command will solve your immediate problem, it is only a
>>> matter of time until you find yourself in the same situation again.
>>> Please take a look at the enclosed error report and try to determine
>>> whether it is a genuine error, or just an informational message. Bear in
>>> mind that this error report was processed by a computer that cannot tell
>>> "User JAIME24 does not exist" from "Please note that the Department of
>>> Microbiology will be closed from December 19 to January 2" or "Attempts
>>> to deliver your message have been unsuccessful for 300 seconds; will keep
>>> trying for another 431700 seconds". These informational messages, while
>>> possibly useful to a human reader, should not be sent in answer to a
>>> message coming from a mailing list (it is very easy for the mail program
>>> to determine whether a message is coming from a mailing list). Genuine
>>> errors should be reported to your computer/network support staff as soon
>>> as possible so that they can be corrected.
>>>
>>> ------------------------- Delivery error report -------------------------
>>> Return-Path: <>
>>> Date: Mon, 22 May 2023 15:04:44 -0400
>>> Reply-to: postmaster@gerry.vanagon.com
>>> From: "LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b" <postmaster@gerry.vanagon.com>
>>> Subject: Undelivered mail
>>> To: owner-vanagon*ryan*-alfonso**GMAIL*-COM@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> X-Report-Type: Nondelivery; boundary="> Error description:"
>>>
>>> An error was detected while processing the enclosed message. A list of
>>> the affected recipient follows. This list is in a special format that
>>> allows software like LISTSERV to automatically take action on incorrect
>>> addresses; you can safely ignore the numeric codes.
>>>
>>> --> Error description:
>>> Error-for: ryan.alfonso@GMAIL.COM
>>> Error-Code: 0
>>> Error-Text: Mailer gmail-smtp-in.l.google.COM said:
>>> "550 5.7.26 DMARC initiative. q3-20020ad45ca3000000b0061b60d73584si4071484qvh.548 - gsmtp"
>>>
>>> Error-End: One error reported.
>>>
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>>> Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
>>> From: "poppie.jagersand@yahoo.ca" <poppie.jagersand@YAHOO.CA>
>>> Subject: NuFinish and other waxes/polishes
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>
>>> Re: NuFinish thread 2 weeks ago.
>>> I find NuFinish both goes on and buffs clean a bit easier than Turtle Wax. =
>>> NuFinish is a polymer, not a natural wax. It smells of VOC - Volatile Organ=
>>> ic Compounds, suggesting the polymer is dissolved in an oil distillate. It'=
>>> s harsher on the hands than Turtle Wax. I'll try to remember to use gloves =
>>> next time. Not sure if one lasts longer than the other.
>>> I used to buy Turtle Wax because that seems to be what others grab by defau=
>>> lt. After reading a Consumer reports comparison several years ago I tried "=
>>> Armor All Car Wax Gel" in a squeze bottle. It goes on directly to the washe=
>>> d and rinsed car when wet, so saves some waiting time. At least for me took=
>>> the same time to apply and buff, and I needed 1/2 bottle per vehicle, more=
>>> than the 1/8 stated.
>>>
>>> McNeely's comment below suggests that wax isn't really needed for longevity=
>>> - maybe it's protective effect on modern car paints is negligible?
>>>
>>> My '82 Westy was repainted in 1994 by PO. Nice job with a clear coat on top=
>>> . After 20 years outside clear coat has come off the top of the rear hatch =
>>> - that part faces directly into the sun the way Poppie is parked.
>>>
>>> I find the wax helps most on the pop-top. Dirt rinses off, as opposed to di=
>>> scoloring the pop-top surface.=20
>>>
>>> Martin and '82 Westy 1.9TD Poppie
>>>
>>> Sun, 30 Apr David McNeely <davmcneely40@GMAIL.COM>
>>>
>>> Power to you Richard.=C2=A0 I haven't waxed (or polished) a car in many a y=
>>> ear.
>>> I used to when I was young, but I learned that the finish is pretty much
>>> there to stay, unless the vehicle (or parts of it) have been repainted.=C2=
>>> =A0 It
>>> doesn't have to shine for me.=C2=A0 I am interested in a repaint job for my
>>> camper, though, with some minor ding repair included.=C2=A0 If anyone can
>>> recommend the place to do that near me, please do.=C2=A0 I am near Spokane,
>>> Washington.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 4:52=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C2=AFPM Richard Koerner <rjkinp=
>>>> b@sbcglobal.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My uncle in Wisconsin is a multi-decade fanatic about having a shiny car.
>>>> He recommended Nu-Finish...the $8 stuff in a bright orange bottle.=C2=A0 =
>>> I
>>>> bought a bottle.=C2=A0 Tried it on my daily driver, 2004 Toyota Highlande=
>>> r.
>>>> (I'm still in the "Insurance Phase" of getting my wrecked 85 Vanagon
>>>> fixed.)=C2=A0 I was delightfully impressed.=C2=A0 Super easy to apply, su=
>>> per easy to
>>>> wipe off.=C2=A0 Very slick and shiny, and so easy.=C2=A0 I've been a long=
>>> -time fan of
>>>> Carnuba Wax, and use once or twice a year on both Highlander and Vanagon;
>>>> but that's always a project...with sore arms and shoulders.=C2=A0 This Nu=
>>> -Finish
>>>> product may just be the better alternative.=C2=A0 Scotty Kilmer and other=
>>> s have
>>>> also suggested it's use on glass; many other YouTubers agreed as a Rain-X
>>>> alternative; water just flows off.=C2=A0 Only thing to beware of is DO NO=
>>> T get
>>>> it on rubber or black plastic parts.=C2=A0 Anyway, it just might be the "=
>>> lazy
>>>> man's" way to have a shiny Vanagon, with great results that last a long
>>>> time.=C2=A0 Apparently it's been around forever....but only now am I disc=
>>> overing
>>>> it.
>>>
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