Date: Tue, 30 May 2023 12:22:31 -0600
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From: OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: Water in the Gas Tank
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Another likely suspect is the Hole in the top of 1 or Both of the Fuel Evap’
Expansion Tanks which are located in the Wheel Wells directly below the Driver
& Pass’ Seats,,, There is a Grommet around a Breather Valve in the top of each
tank which can & does go bad & disappear allowing water flung by the tires to be
introduced into the Fuel Syst’ ~
> On 30 May , 2023, at 11:24 AM, Dan N <dn92610@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> The water enters the gas tank probably from one of those 4 holes/ports you
> see here. A new fuel tank or a reseal kit.
>
> https://gowesty.com/products/fuel-tank
>
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>
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> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 10:00 AM Gabriel Hourtouat <ghourtouat@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi friends, it seems like ages since I have had anything to add. Glad to
>> be back:
>>
>> I had to drain water out of my gas tank after lurching, coughing and
>> sagging onto a campsite this past weekend. Not sure how the water got in
>> there -- gas tank sender? It had been raining. Pointers on where to look
>> for the point of ingress would be appreciated. I assumed that the water
>> would be on th bottom of the tank so I purged according to the method I
>> describe below. My trip home was uneventful so I initially assumed that my
>> purge was successful since I had continued to purge off the bottom of the
>> tank until the gas looked clear and clean. HOWEVER, thinking back: the
>> crud that came out of my tank (and fuel line) separated into two phases in
>> my inspection bowl. What is troubling me now, is that the bottom liquid
>> was clear, and the TOP looked like an emulsion. So if the emulsion was
>> floating on top of the gas in my inspection bowl, should it not have also
>> been floating on top of the gas in the tank? Harumph.
>>
>> For reference in case it's handy for anyone else:
>> -An effective draining/purging of the gas tank;
>> -take precautions to NOT CATCH FIRE OR BLOW UP.
>> -front right tire elevated 4.5" onto three 2x6" board thicknesses
>> -front left tire elevated to near max height of the vehicle jack which was
>> also elevated about 1.5" off the ground
>> -use fuel hose clamps to control fuel flow***. Allow zero leaks.
>> -disconnect hose to the prefilter and catch the gas and crud into a
>> suitable inspection vessel such as a (CLEAN!) clear disposable food
>> container
>> -drain small batches (half litre) at a time so you can inspect frequently
>> and get a good feeling of when the fuel in your tank is good. Pour the
>> purged fuel into a suitably rated fuel can for later disposal (alternately,
>> you can just drain large amounts directly into a fuel can?)
>> -give the prefilter a shake and rinse it in some of that convenient clean
>> fuel since it's almost off anyways, reconnect
>> -disconnect the fuel return line from the other side of the fuel tank (I
>> took the rigid tube out of the flexible hose)
>> -run the engine while catching the crud that you are purging out of the
>> fuel supply loop into your inspection vessel or fuel can
>> -reconnect the return line
>> -run engine and inspect for leaks. DOUBLE CHECK.
>>
>> ***I keep two fuel line hose clamps (orange plastic/nylon pliers-style
>> clamps made for closing off hoses) in my driver's side door pocket for
>> emergency closing of fuel or coolant hoses.
>>
>> Purging the fuel line was worth the trouble because that's where the
>> ugliest stuff was hiding.
>>
>> gabby
>> 86 waterboxer westy
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 8:49 PM Tom C <thomas.casal@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh yea I changed all the fuel lines including the plastic got rid of the
>>> firewall failure point etc… I resealed the tank also this was all about 6
>>> years ago. Tank reseal just failed last week not sure where yet have to
>>> burn off fuel so I can drop the tank. I’m guessing the rubber o ring for
>>> the fuel sender failed.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 8:31 PM Chris Cary <chriscary48@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I might’ve missed it. But did you do the lines that go to the two
>> little
>>>> plastic tanks that are inside front wheel wells?
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, December 11, 2021, 4:51 PM, Tom C <thomas.casal@GMAIL.COM
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks fellas. Sucks when the fuel tank reseal fails after 5, 6 years.
>> I
>>>> have to start looking into higher quality rubber seals especially that
>>>> rubber o ring around the fuel sender. I have a feeling that’s where
>> it’s
>>>> leaking.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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