Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2023 10:59:45 -0500
Reply-To: Jeff Palmer <w.jeff.palmer@ICLOUD.COM>
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From: Jeff Palmer <w.jeff.palmer@ICLOUD.COM>
Subject: Re: ID Buzz
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In ten years when cars drive themselves maybe there won’t be safety issues anymore :)
Jeff
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> On Jun 4, 2023, at 9:03 AM, Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Hi all,
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> I’m reserving impression until I get hands on experience.
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> As for size I had a related conversation with a VW dealer. I said I didn’t love our new Toyota Rav 4 prime mainly because it was longer and wider than my Vanagon but didn’t have a lot of interior room. I thought the design was silly.
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> His answer was. Cars are now a safety capsule. That missing room is so that people inside are safe.
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> This is a good observation.
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> I love my Vanagon and its use of space. And, it is not super unsafe, but not anything like the safety capsule of a new vehicle.
> I suspect this impacts the space in the IDBuzz.
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> Still with clever engineering maybe we can get that little van into a comfortable small camper mode, fingers crossed.
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> Eric Caron
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>> On Jun 4, 2023, at 3:47 AM, Raimund Feussner <ray@V6BUS.DE> wrote:
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>> The most boring and useless rebirth of an icon.
>> The Buzz is a 5-seater "minivan" (4.6mtr) , in Europe like Sharan/Galaxy/Alhambra. US similar PontiacTransport and modern such?! I had a seat in it in Hannover last year.
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>> Now they are bragging with the long wheelbase 7/8 seater (4.9mtr). Have you seen the shine-through image of it? If completely fitted with seats, the luggage compartment is less than T5s.
>> https://derivates.kicker.de/image/upload/w_1795,h_1010,c_fill,g_auto:subject/w_1000,q_auto,h_563/v1/2023/06/02/47c5eada-5799-4b02-8780-96f5763d067f.jpeg
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>> Our Vanagons are 4.6mtr and have a whole meter of that length as luggage compartment.
>> I am not saying the Vanagon is the ultmaite design for all eternity! But boy, the outer vs inner size has been developing backwards since the 2000s.
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>> Yes, VW has to ride the nostalgia wave. But in my opinion, they are dismantling their own heritage.
>> The young rich kids won´t care anyway and think it´s cool.
>>
>> Raimund
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>>> Am 04.06.2023 um 03:07 schrieb Richard Koerner:
>>> Just watch: Watch Live: Volkswagen 3-Row ID. Buzz World Premiere
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