Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2023 14:01:37 -0700
Reply-To: David McNeely <davmcneely40@GMAIL.COM>
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From: David McNeely <davmcneely40@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Funny travel experience
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Hmmmm.... . I seldom use air conditioning at home, and that was true even
when I lived in Texas, where 104 F is a real thing. That is 40 C. So,
your home refrigerator would be running around 20 C at a delta of 20 C.
That's 68 F. But mine holds a steady 38 F (just over 4 C) regardless of
ambient. A cooler with chipped ice will be at 32 F (0 C) in the ice/water
mixture, and around 40 F in the contained air. Block ice will be similar,
maybe air a little warmer. At 68 F, milk would only last a day or so.
On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 6:22 AM Jeff Palmer <w.jeff.palmer@icloud.com>
wrote:
> Well you do have to nurse it along :) I get better performance with shore
> power than propane. Never mentioned the temperature delta. What is it with
> a modern fridge? Or with a cooler and ice? The fridge in my home never gets
> between 22-23C difference either :) usually about 17 :)
>
> Eric - my light usually works to indicate it’s running but if it’s not the
> vent gets hot fast. Between my two teenage girls my wife and my own big
> mouth it is never quiet enough to hear the fridge running.
>
> Jeff
> Also with 69 Type 3 Notchback!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 16, 2023, at 11:10 PM, Alistair Bell <
> ragnarhairybreeks@icloud.com> wrote:
> >
> > Best I could get, with a lot of dubious mods, and I think agrees with
> other published , is…
> > A 22-23 C diff between inside and outside of the fridge.
> >
> > That’s the wall. If it was better insulated and the fins not on the back
> , I d guess it coudl be better .
> >
> > But it’s Dometic crx50 in last year and it’s better
> >
> > Ab
> >
> >> On Jun 16, 2023, at 8:22 PM, David McNeely <davmcneely40@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Mine got so that even with ambient temperature 70 F, it would only
> cool to
> >> 55 F. That was in addition to being a real pain to get lit, and then
> >> sometimes it would go out for who knows what reason. When I first got
> the
> >> van, the refrigerator would frost the freezer compartment, though I
> never
> >> tried making ice cubes. It would run at 40 F in hot weather. Then it
> just
> >> went to pot. I pulled it, cleaned the burner, cleaned the flu. No
> >> improvement. Now it is in my shop, taking up space. I put shelves in
> the
> >> space where it was, and used the original refrigerator door as a
> closure.
> >> I'm perfectly happy, and no, I don't need a compressor refrigerator. I
> use
> >> a Yeti, block ice, and everything is cold for six days in hot weather,
> >> longer in spring and fall. I freeze the ice myself in gallon jugs.
> mcneely
> >>
> >>> On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 8:03 PM Jeff Palmer <w.jeff.palmer@icloud.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I am getting my van ready for Fathers Day camping weekend on Lake
> >>> Winnipeg. Tried the gas fridge, lights up on the first try. I’m not a
> >>> golfer but i imagine a hole in one feels similar.
> >>>
> >>> Jeff in Winnipeg
> >>> 85 Westfalia
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> On Jun 16, 2023, at 8:16 PM, David McNeely <davmcneely40@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> So they "camp" but don't use the stove? The refrigerator I can
> >>>> understand. No matter how good a shape the vehicle is in, the
> >>> refrigerator
> >>>> may not work, or work sufficiently well to trust it. I ditched mine,
> and
> >>>> now just use a Yeti box with block ice. It is more reliable. The
> >>>> additional storage space after having removed the refrigerator is
> handy,
> >>>> too.
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 4:02 PM Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi folks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I need to do a trip report but before that I wanted to send this
> post.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> At the middle of a long trip we stopped in the Thousand Island
> area. We
> >>>>> passed what turned out to be a beautiful 87 Westfalia already camped.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We wint over and met a lovely retired couple on the young
> retired
> >>>>> side. What was so interesting is that they loved the van and kept it
> >>> super
> >>>>> clean, but had no interest in the mechanics. They had purchased it
> >>> about 7
> >>>>> or more years ago. It was in amazing condition. And they just drive
> >>> it.
> >>>>> It seems like they have had few mechanical issues. It amazed me that
> >>> they
> >>>>> were likely at the end of a decade with this van and really barely
> knew
> >>> how
> >>>>> to use the features. And, it really was beautiful.
> >>>>> The van was loved by the previous owner who died in a motor cycle
> >>>>> accident. The widow sold it but only after making them promise to
> >>> garage
> >>>>> it and to only use the best gas. The van had a 2.5 GW motor and a
> >>> Haynes
> >>>>> hitch on the back. GW 16 wheels and an awning that looked like a 10
> >>> foot
> >>>>> Fiaama but was some brand I never heard of. It was from PA.
> >>>>> They have never opened the awning. Not used the refrigerator.
> >>>>> Likely not the stove much either as they don’t know how to get the
> >>> propane
> >>>>> filled. I sure wish I could help them out but really they were not
> that
> >>>>> interested. They just used it for summer adventures and then put it
> >>> away.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Amazing that it could be so trouble free for them. And with the GW
> 2.5
> >>>>> they move.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I’m sending him the subscription info for this list. I’m sure
> he
> >>>>> will need us eventually!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Eric Caron
> >>>>>
> >>>
>
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