Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 11:38:52 -0700
Reply-To: Dan N <dn92610@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Dan N <dn92610@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: About Oetiker Clamps
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Regarding MansiSpeed injectors, my comment is in here...
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=784070&highlight=mansispeed
On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 9:40 PM OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@comcast.net> wrote:
> Probably said before but will say again,,, Anyone deciding to
> install new injectors
>
> should give a serious look to MansiSpeed,,, Have installed several sets of
> these now &
>
> results have always created huge smiles, better idle, smoother
> acceleration, more power ~
>
> Kinda pricey but the added engine efficiency, IMHO, may very well add to
> Engine Life ~
>
> ORR ~ DeanB
>
>
> > On 28 Aug , 2023, at 6:08 PM, Eric Caron <ericcaron96@COMCAST.NET>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > This brought back bad memories of last summer when a GW fuel
> injector failed and sprayed gas in my engine compartment during a trip in
> Canada in Nova Scotia.
> >
> > It was a very young basically new injector.
> >
> > I’m pretty sure Jim’s are also new parts so this isn’t a fault of time
> and use breakdown.
> >
> > Luckily, like Jim, I caught it in time and replaced.
> >
> > I changed out all the injectors when I got home.
> >
> > Also. I was looking at my clamps and it seems like one van has those non
> adjustable squeeze style and the others are those that screw tighten.
> >
> > I’m just going to check now and then and keep my nose working.
> >
> > I’m actually a little concerned as my 84 smells a bit in the front so I
> will be doing tank reseal and possibly new tank this fall.
> >
> > And the 85 just smells different. Might be the slight oil seep but I
> worry about gas.
> >
> > So, I’m hoping to get my 85 van inspected by a local person that
> seems very detail oriented. Only it takes months to get an appointment.
> >
> > Keep a nose and eye on those gas sources!
> >
> > Eric Caron
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Aug 24, 2023, at 7:30 PM, Richard Koerner <rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Jim, if it were me, after this trip allow time to replace ALL of those
> rubber hoses with proper ones that can withstand alcohol like in modern
> E-10 gasoline. Very important is to really get into it. Like replacing
> the 2" lines from rail to injector. Our good buddy Ben in Canada (Ben's
> Place, not sure if still around) had a great synopsis of how to do it. He
> used an X-acto knife to cut off that old stuff....super simple. Of course,
> delete the plastic firewall connector (it was only done for manufacturing
> purposes) and replace with a nice rubber grommet and hose. Yes....you have
> GOT to do this stuff....only takes half a day. Well for me, a whole day.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 04:02:08 PM PDT, Richard Koerner <
> rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Great Jim. I had an experience when backing out of garage onto
> driveway...saw a pathway of liquid...immediately moved forward back into
> garage while motor was cool. Smelled it. Gasoline...vaporized within
> seconds later. Close call for me. Fixed it. My first experience with
> faulty rubber fuel injection hoses.
> >>
> >> On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 03:47:57 PM PDT, Jim Crews <
> jcrews@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Richard, thanks for bringing it over here to the list. That was me
> posting. Here is the video of what happened as I was about to start on a
> few hour trip: https://photos.app.goo.gl/ctfpG88ZrY7AKWMj7
> >> I quickly shut off the engine and went around tightening the clamps.
> After screwing then down, the leak was gone and I was on my way. Otherside
> also seemed loose so I tightened those down also.
> >> My main question is should I be using a different style clamp in those
> locations or just assume they will vibrate loose every so often. Either
> way, I’ll be staying on top of those clamps as part of regular and routine
> checks.
> >> Jim
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 6:05 PM Richard Koerner <rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Some guy was having Major fuel leak at fuel rail (on Facebook, Vanagon
> Owners Group); he had a mixture of Oetiker Clamps and smooth bodied screw
> clamps (had Video of fuel on rails coming out of somewhere), I thought you
> might have some thoughts as to my comment, I try to give good advice, lots
> of them are newcomers, but trying hard:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> OK....here's my "opinion". Oetiker Clamps were developed for fast,
> secure installation at the factory. Install, compress, done. But there is
> no allowance for the fact that over time rubber loses it's flex....in fact,
> it actually takes a set. So, for Fuel Injection hoses, it's my "opinion"
> those smooth sided screw clamps are a superior design (obviously not the
> slotted worm-drive clamps) in that they allow for snug up over the years.
> Regarding "springy" hose clamps on water hoses, these things ARE superior
> over slotted worm-drive clamps in that they are self-adjusting as rubber
> loses its flexibility. Still, with periodic attention, on water hoses with
> worm-drive clamps you can always snug up; the problem is, most folks don't
> and these are sometimes overlooked in hard to reach locations. Again, my
> "opinion".
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
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