Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2023 02:45:10 -0700
Reply-To: Dan N <dn92610@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Dan N <dn92610@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: About Oetiker Clamps
In-Reply-To: <3E3D7F61-5EDD-4EE0-B3E2-3DD2FD7C994A@comcast.net>
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The one with 2 pictures of the injector tip.
On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 10:45 PM OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@comcast.net> wrote:
> Which 1 is You ~
>
> > On 30 Aug , 2023, at 12:38 PM, Dan N <dn92610@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >
> > Regarding MansiSpeed injectors, my comment is in here...
> >
> >
> https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=784070&highlight=mansispeed
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 9:40 PM OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Probably said before but will say again,,, Anyone deciding to
> >> install new injectors
> >>
> >> should give a serious look to MansiSpeed,,, Have installed several sets
> of
> >> these now &
> >>
> >> results have always created huge smiles, better idle, smoother
> >> acceleration, more power ~
> >>
> >> Kinda pricey but the added engine efficiency, IMHO, may very well add to
> >> Engine Life ~
> >>
> >> ORR ~
> DeanB
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 28 Aug , 2023, at 6:08 PM, Eric Caron <ericcaron96@COMCAST.NET>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi folks,
> >>>
> >>> This brought back bad memories of last summer when a GW fuel
> >> injector failed and sprayed gas in my engine compartment during a trip
> in
> >> Canada in Nova Scotia.
> >>>
> >>> It was a very young basically new injector.
> >>>
> >>> I’m pretty sure Jim’s are also new parts so this isn’t a fault of time
> >> and use breakdown.
> >>>
> >>> Luckily, like Jim, I caught it in time and replaced.
> >>>
> >>> I changed out all the injectors when I got home.
> >>>
> >>> Also. I was looking at my clamps and it seems like one van has those
> non
> >> adjustable squeeze style and the others are those that screw tighten.
> >>>
> >>> I’m just going to check now and then and keep my nose working.
> >>>
> >>> I’m actually a little concerned as my 84 smells a bit in the front so I
> >> will be doing tank reseal and possibly new tank this fall.
> >>>
> >>> And the 85 just smells different. Might be the slight oil seep but I
> >> worry about gas.
> >>>
> >>> So, I’m hoping to get my 85 van inspected by a local person that
> >> seems very detail oriented. Only it takes months to get an appointment.
> >>>
> >>> Keep a nose and eye on those gas sources!
> >>>
> >>> Eric Caron
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Aug 24, 2023, at 7:30 PM, Richard Koerner <rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Jim, if it were me, after this trip allow time to replace ALL of those
> >> rubber hoses with proper ones that can withstand alcohol like in modern
> >> E-10 gasoline. Very important is to really get into it. Like replacing
> >> the 2" lines from rail to injector. Our good buddy Ben in Canada (Ben's
> >> Place, not sure if still around) had a great synopsis of how to do it.
> He
> >> used an X-acto knife to cut off that old stuff....super simple. Of
> course,
> >> delete the plastic firewall connector (it was only done for
> manufacturing
> >> purposes) and replace with a nice rubber grommet and hose. Yes....you
> have
> >> GOT to do this stuff....only takes half a day. Well for me, a whole
> day.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 04:02:08 PM PDT, Richard Koerner <
> >> rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Great Jim. I had an experience when backing out of garage onto
> >> driveway...saw a pathway of liquid...immediately moved forward back into
> >> garage while motor was cool. Smelled it. Gasoline...vaporized within
> >> seconds later. Close call for me. Fixed it. My first experience with
> >> faulty rubber fuel injection hoses.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 03:47:57 PM PDT, Jim Crews <
> >> jcrews@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Richard, thanks for bringing it over here to the list. That was me
> >> posting. Here is the video of what happened as I was about to start on a
> >> few hour trip: https://photos.app.goo.gl/ctfpG88ZrY7AKWMj7
> >>>> I quickly shut off the engine and went around tightening the clamps.
> >> After screwing then down, the leak was gone and I was on my way.
> Otherside
> >> also seemed loose so I tightened those down also.
> >>>> My main question is should I be using a different style clamp in those
> >> locations or just assume they will vibrate loose every so often. Either
> >> way, I’ll be staying on top of those clamps as part of regular and
> routine
> >> checks.
> >>>> Jim
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 6:05 PM Richard Koerner <
> rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Some guy was having Major fuel leak at fuel rail (on Facebook, Vanagon
> >> Owners Group); he had a mixture of Oetiker Clamps and smooth bodied
> screw
> >> clamps (had Video of fuel on rails coming out of somewhere), I thought
> you
> >> might have some thoughts as to my comment, I try to give good advice,
> lots
> >> of them are newcomers, but trying hard:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> OK....here's my "opinion". Oetiker Clamps were developed for fast,
> >> secure installation at the factory. Install, compress, done. But there
> is
> >> no allowance for the fact that over time rubber loses it's flex....in
> fact,
> >> it actually takes a set. So, for Fuel Injection hoses, it's my "opinion"
> >> those smooth sided screw clamps are a superior design (obviously not the
> >> slotted worm-drive clamps) in that they allow for snug up over the
> years.
> >> Regarding "springy" hose clamps on water hoses, these things ARE
> superior
> >> over slotted worm-drive clamps in that they are self-adjusting as rubber
> >> loses its flexibility. Still, with periodic attention, on water hoses
> with
> >> worm-drive clamps you can always snug up; the problem is, most folks
> don't
> >> and these are sometimes overlooked in hard to reach locations. Again, my
> >> "opinion".
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
>
>
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